^^^I think fair amounts of assumptions have been made on both side dear, no point pointing fingures about it. HOw funny you thin i will disagree with something just because you said so :rolleyes: When i get the energy/ time to type endless and argue my "claim" i will do so, frankly i can't be asked right now I don't really have a problem with anything you have said on This post.

^^Nacassnimaad iska thaa dear, waxaas aayaan kuu naacaay, all the time wad qooslasa, unless you are "toosha kaa miskeen, hoosta kaa liiciin" Johnny B Wow you are still alive, where have you been, can you believe i missed you old man!

^^This is getting trying, baal wahaaye waad, for everyone sake I hope "Somalinimo" does not mean shoot everyone with a different view as "we all need to take the same path to reach the same goal" :rolleyes: "Somalinimo, Secessionist, Xabash Stooge, waaxaab maadxaa kuu khaado you guys are all as bad as each other, why cannot you not have your own views and opinions instead of just blindly following some kind of unattainable ideal, better you all start with basic baby steps (regard for human life is a good start). :cool: I don’t want to get drawn into your contradictions, I already gave you at least one example and you still insist on its non existence so I guess we will just differ on that one.

^^You just made one right there^^ you are full of them to be honest. The one I pointed out earlier was your Somalinimo theory V what your practice, you don't practice what you preach nor do you encourage "unity" you just bang the drums for it, then exclude people left, right and centre, just because they are not like Tom & Tim

AAliyah :eek: :eek: are you kidding me?? :confused: I guess not so i might as well answer your questions. Ibtisam are u implying that I am no longer a good person because I started posting in politics section.lol I wonder why?? I never said anything about you being a good person or a bad person, but now that you have mentioned you have always come crossed as cool, calm and collected nice person. Since that’s the case the rest of your questions are just based on an assumption you made about what i think of you, so although I do not see the point answering them, I will anyway just to make my stance clear if nothing else. Is it because I stated that we shouldn't divide somalis, and we should stay as a one nation? lemme put it this way, is my political perception conflicting with yrs?? A lot of people believe that Somalia is better off as one, rather than divided, it is not something addiga kuu gaarah, nor is it a new view, it does not bother me, nor does it make me like or dislike someone based on that. IS it in conflicting with mine you ask: Yes, ( I believe people should be and do as they deem fit as a society, not be forced or coerced into doing things) but so what? We disagree on other things in life as well. I have seen enough of life to know that you will have different views to everyone else, I disagree with red on a lot of things, so what, that is life, deal with it. We are both adults, i expect you to make your point without insulting me or belittling anyone's view, and i will do the same and you find a common ground with the person. are u implying that perhaps since I don’t agree with you, then, I should stop posting?? No not at all (it is odd that you mention that i don't remember reading a post of yours in the politics section, replying to you or visa verse (in fact all post I made in the politics section are under one 2threads i think) my comment was actually a joke you blew out of proportion, I know people dislike red for his views because I see people bring up the issue all the time in other sections, hence my comment. and why did you single out Xalane?? why not Alle-ubaahne, Fanisha , or Ebonique, it is because they were promoting your personal political stand. Personally, Xalane was the same as the rest of them, they all needed to learn howta express their views without insults. I don't know who Fanisha or Ebonique is, have not seen any of their posts, nor have i seen Alle-ubaahne posts in the politics section (and he always wrote in difficult Somali, which puts me off reading his threads even in other sections) that is why I cannot comment on them not because as you claim they represent my view, (again your judgement). As for Xalan, if you read the women's section you will notice that we use to post backwards and forwards all the time and have jokes, in the politics section he is not the same person (I'm kind of surprised you are defending someone who wants to wipe off half of Somalia just because they have different views) Anyway He is not here to speak for himself so I'm going to leave it at that. p.s. Why do you still call me Ibtisam?just wondering lol

looool Wow. This place sure is funny. GaRAAD Canood lol, please haasi ceebnaani you are niin waen :rolleyes: Even if i was a secessionists and having an affair (as you call it with red sea) It would have nothing to do with what i said to you or anyone else on this forum. I pointed out a contradiction between what you claim to stand for and your little speech (same way i did with "me") If you cannot justify that with out jumping from post to pillar then just ignore it, waaxab maar baa geed haa issku so toosin. Che. It will take a whole thread of its own, and something tells me i don't want to go down that road with you anyway

^^^OUCH. that almost made me laugh... Garaad Caanood, i don't hate dear (well unless you are a criminal, murder, rapist)

^^^The issue is not who is wrong, and who is right, who is clean, who is dirty, I really could not care less, because fortunately for them, the ones with the guns never suffer, nor do they die (otherwise by now they would have finished each other 16yrs is a long time) The ones who get caught in the middle and who die, lose their homes and kids and a lot of the times their life are innocent by standers, and struggling people who have tried for the last 16yrs to build something in the worse conditions. They are getting abused, raped and murder simple because they are caught in the middle of 2gangs. It is them that need our help, it is them that need US to give them a voice above those who claim to speak for them or represent them yet killing them in 100s. The best way to get them voice is to use the media machines and get their stories to the wider community and the generally masses, who will in turn pressure these animals to leave the poor people in peace.

G.Canood, He replied while i was at the same time replying to you, check the times. And i did tell him to calm down he her started generalising people. I think again you are making the classic mistake of assuming I'm taking sides based on other than what you type.!

^^^Now now easy there tiger, hold your horses, some people have good concept of Somalinimo (so far Ms D & D and Kimiya (can't think of any1 else at this moment) so don't judge everyone

^^^Did you send out the e-mails as requested by paragon, cambarro and myself, make yourself useful would ya, I don't do fadhi ku dirir because i'm seef laa bood, so no worries stick around

^^^Wannaki kaa riitah koofiyadi

^^^Hmmm... I've few things to finish off here, do stay, i don't believe your job is done yet, although i can why anyone sane who give up speaking to the mad people here!

^^^Sahardid, you might want to Edit your name out dear, Yes they do respond (most of the time)

Garaad Caanood ^^^^Wow Lovely Insults dear^ I can see you have so Much love for everyone :rolleyes: No wonder everyone is falling over each other to reach your welcoming arms :rolleyes: Sometimes people need to read their verbal vomit before exposing them to the public. ish......

^^^How loooool ^^YOu bully^^ loool. Sis stop going to the politics section so much, lool it changes your preception of people, for example i though Xalan was a nice guy till I went to the Poltics section lool, changed clothes as they say. Red beenta isska daa, i remember when you told me you "loved me" before your exams. haha lool exposed

Martin Keetle- martin.kettle@guardian.co.uk David Hayes, Deputy Editor david.hayes@opendemocracy.net Isabel Hilton, Editor-in-chief isabel.hilton@opendemocracy.net Are Anti Muslim for the most part, not familiar with the rest (Madeleine is concerned with religion and youth, i remember she did a big research last year on Islam and women, and she has wrote few things about Africa and poverty). If you choose to e-mail writers Please take time to research what field they cover and what influence they have if any, don't waste your time e-mailing people who are general racist,islamphobic or nationalistic in foreign policy

^^^You wrote half of that wrong dear, I will open a school for the lost aussie's when/if i reach over this summer inshallah.

^^^No, and it took me 3mins to read that. But yes you have proven your point now iidaaf, stop showing off :cool:

^^^oh what do you know, aussies are even worse than us in Somali! Okay

I'm sure it is Jaar but you might be right

^^^Woow i know more somali than you Jaar= cliff in somali, it can also mean "cut" lol my Spelling might be wrong though as well as how i say it! lol

^^^^lool^ Loooool you crack me up.... by the way that kind of speech should tell you,... I'm not who you think I'm loool. I guess you told that to a lot of people, now you are confused, I know you think I am though, lool, greek names are the next big thing dee, hence why she is not the only one use them! lool. ( i bet that^ did not sound like her posh self now, did it!)

^^^Depends on why you are doing it, haadaad jaar kaa tuurtiid then it is not good and Srats are facts of life

^^^Jury is still out on that one North, don't make it a fact yet! And this is not the Islam section so please do not quote some Hadith to support your point! I mean statistically speaking.