WHy is she smiling?? CL did you kill her??

^^I did not read what he said, well put or not. The above can simply be summed up as: God said, and therefore you must obey. Its not really much of an explanation at all. If you tell a child 'God said this', they would most likely follow it up with 'But why did God say that?'. A child must be able to understand their role in the wider context in th community and how their actions and looks effect that. And although kids might understand this, they may not appreciate it until they are old enough to have be part of that experience. That is the long and short of it, thanks Serenity. You can explain why they must obey god, without drawing on the wider community. Although I'm sure it helps. 5) The hijab is Haya, morality etc. ^ Haya and morality has little if anything at all to do with how one looks but how one acts. Go back to the drawing board Ibs Are you sure dear?? :cool:

Ngonge: I can see it perfectly well I'm just not of the crew that likes to argue with Johnny. I mean what is the point?? :cool: As for narrowing it down. The arguments on this thread are centred on those ideas and the inability for kids to understand this or have the desirable features to cover up! I'm simply pointing out that it is not all about this. Go figure.

^^^Cara depends on their age. If theya re older only if it is a girls only school Ngonge: Whatever it was, it worked for me, so I see no reason to change it. I refuse to narrow down the virtue of hijab to Men's pervertedness and lack of self control :cool:

Originally posted by NGONGE: ^^ Indoctrination here we come. Ibti, You just made that list up. Sounds like a sexed up advert for the Hijab. A load of hogwash of course. Ngonge I happen to believe it, I was told this at young age. :cool:

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My dear Malika; you have describe one virtue of Hijab, but there are other virtues of Hijab that IF I had a daughter I could explain to her perfectly well. These are what I would explain. 1)That hijab is first and foremost an act of obedience to Allah and to his prophet (pbuh). 2)That the hijab is Allah Shield and protection, without it you have broken Allah’s shield. 3)That the hijab is Taqwah; by this I mean that is fear of running counter to the will of allah. Taqwa is based on the Love of Allah, if I teach my child to love allah, they will have no problem understanding this. 4)The hijab is Imaan, It is central to their believe. 5) The hijab is Haya, morality etc. A 5-6 year old can understand that just fine. By the time they have reached puberty, they should already know and be acting it.

^^^WHy would you not go into details :confused: There is no shameful reason behind why we wear hijabs. Narrowing down the purpose of hijab to "so that men do not look at you" is short sighted.

^^^They run off together. WHy do you miss them?? JB is gone Jumca prayer and food, then sleep. It is weekend for him. CL was last seen in the toilet beating that women who stole her works as*S.

^^^^I know, you know, no need for me to write an essay, stating the obvious Yaa Ngonge, horta do you get off on making me write essays?!

^^^It is always nice to say sorry. Otherwise You'll never be able to look at him in the eye again and will always feel guilty. Pluz he may hold a grudge and it will complicate things and blow them out of proportion.

^^^Kids are not stupi*d. Many understand the deen better than some adults, when they are taught. There is a difference between making them wear something just for the sake of it and making them understand WHY they wear a hijab.

Serenity; do tell. what happened?? you got bariis, and few soamli songs. No one danced, and they sold you few things. I had a great time too.

OH SHID^^

WHy would your teenage daughter suddenly decide to make herself a stranger among her friends by putting a hijab on. It saves them the painful process of trying to make new friends and explain themselves to everyone who they've run around with since childhood. Where as if they wear it from a young age, it just because part of them and they do not see as something which makes them an outsider, nor will they have to explain to the other little kids of a sudden change. Ngonge made a good point, although he was taking the pi*ss. Yes kids should be expected to act in an "Islamic way" not to mix with boys, scream or run around. It is part of instilling adaab in your daughter at an early stage. It is the same as teaching your kids to help the old lady next door, or say thank you to the bus driver/ shop assistant etc. Yes, the parents knows best until the little kid is no longer a kid and has all the necessary information and knowledge to make their own decisions. If they then decide to take it all off and joint the circus, there is not much you can do about it, you've done your duty as a Muslim Parent. This notion of let “kids be kids” “Teenage years” “Young adults” is all bullshid excuses to justify people never growing up and taking responsibility for anything. Kids can be kids before they reach 7, you better start treating them like adults by then, instead of babying them more with rubbish like “oh it is still a child” *ducks…

That's what the poor maskeenah gets when she spoils rotten Mr. Minjo-baasto ood moodid qaxootigii sablaale (no clue where that is, lol) inuu ka soo hadhay. Wax loo naxo walee ma istaahilaan rag aan ogahay. lol I never cracked up so much, oh lord. loool Thanks Haneefa!.

^^Are you kidding?? Him and his team bullied, bride, and begged to win by 9 Irish votes to borrow the metro words.

^^^ :rolleyes:

^^^Faking shyness :cool: Goes back to edit her post, :cool:

^^SO what is the other meaning?? :cool: Oh shid we cannot hijack this thread! oops. Sorry guys Isseh reply in troll. :cool:

^^^What is the other meaning?? It just means determined indoadeege as far as I know. :confused:

^^^Only because Brown is doing so badly. F.Brown, you are in a world of your own. But you really cannot talk. Here is your president

^^^Just fuleeys. The rest weey isaso indo adegyihin.

I cannot tell the difference when I sound it out. For example when I write daadka (people) It also seems the same as daad (as in flood) :confused: Also in somali, sometimes it is a heavy sounding "D" other times it is so light I think it must be a "T"

Now like Ngonge (sp) my mother began talking about my fatness (how that might make me less attractive to a man to marry me), I didn’t care really…Now that I am about to reach my expiration date in the marriage market, I thought it was time for me to get healthy for me…So I am exciting about this. Maybe it was psychological, you resisted losing weigh so you can hide behind it as the reason of you not getting married or putting people off you. My older cousin use to pretend she had a stinking attitude. Every Farah use to leave running. lol I still laugh till this day. Lol Looool @ Expiration date in the market, girl there is no such thing. You just have smaller market. Lol Caadaan I think that is a good idea, the sticky thing.