Alley lehe Siilaanyo waa rag ah! Oo uu dhiig Muslinimo iyo Soomaalinimo ku jiro! Allaa Yacizak! Raggu kala duwanaa! kala damiir wanaagsanaa!

^^^Loool Originally posted by Samurai Warrior: Waar bal tan oo kale - Paragon - OK let us play a child's game then, shall we? Garanay gabanada u barooranaaya bililaqada, iyo xaaraanta, bal muudalkaagan Dhahar ka soo rooray dhankee lagaa saafaa? Tata... Adeer, maalintuu adeer amxaari bakhti cune ah maciinsaday ayay reer Dhahar biyo diideen! Reer Dhahar Somalinimo iyo Gobanimido ayay la wadaagaan dadyowga kalee Somalida ah! Adiguse maxaad taqaan? Oo aan qadiyad qabiil ahayn? Xaq darrada wey ka dhiidhiyaan reer Dhahar, wiilkoow! Maalintuu Siyaad maarta reerkiina ku furey, reer Dhahar ayaa ka aamusi waayey! Maantana amxaaribaa Muqdishu dabaabadaha maatida ku marinaya, adna sanaadda iyo hubkaad u siddaa gaalka bakhti-cunaha ah...Taasi soo Illaah iyo Somalinimo ka furasho ma aha?

^looooool Allow sahal umuuraha. War ma samyun bukmun cumyun miyuu Illaah kaa dhigay? Were you hidding in a cave all this time? Mowduuc? hahaha

Sumarai Ma meel baa ku bukta adiga? Heesta iney ku gubeyso waan igaa Sumarai. A guilt trip of kind is unsettling your conscience? . Dad bey meeli buktaa in aan kuu saaro ayay ahayd. The correlation? Simple. Your uncle's treason then and now . The servitude of your uncle has begun then and now it has gone one up one level. To carry the shoes of his masters into Mogadishu and other parts of Somalia. Then (1977) we were doing the invasion and now they (amxaaro) are doing it. Are you that blinded to even see that, Sumarai? Sunta qabyaaladeed eed aad cabtay kululaa?

^^ Lol. Advice? Get out now while you can! Relocate to Baidoa.

^^Are you hinting that we should compile a list on going with a gashaantiyo and leave the ones with kids out of the pic?

Originally posted by Naxar Nugaaleed: yeah sure, xamaries share something with hargeisawis that they don't share with ceerigaabons or bossasons. If not qabiil, you should really get back on your somali geography. Don't lump up people, man. You are alone in this. Its your uncle who made the bed for you so sleep on it!

La Jihaada Amxaarada! War waad mala habawdaye!

lol xox ogaal. War waa runtaa abti.

24 Askari oo Itoobiyaana ayaa isu dhiibay Xoogaga Kacdoonka Muqdisho kadib markii la bam gareeynayay 18 saacadood oo is daba jooga. Itoobiyaankaas isi soo dhiibay ayaa ka mid ah 234 Askar Itoobiyaana oo ka dagaalamayay tan iyo shalay Istaadiyuum Muqdisho iyo Xarunta Xisbigga Culumadda ayaa ku baaqday inaan la dilin Askartaas oo hubka laga qaato,lana xiro si gorgortan loogu galo. Inkastoo ay la yaab noqotay Askari Itoobiyaana oo is dhiibay hadana waxaa arrimahaas lala xiriirinayaa iyagoo gaajo iyo oon ugu asqoobay Isbartiibada oo ay maalintii labaad ku godoonsanaayeen.waxayse Askartaas isi soo dhiibtay sheegeen inay jiraan kuwa kale gacantooda isku dilay. Ciidamadda Itoobiyaanka ee ku jira Isbartiibada ayaa calama cad cad ka taagay Xarunta Xisbigga waxayna ku baaqeen in la siiyo wado ay si amaana ugu gudbaan dhinaca Madaxtooyadda hasse yeeshee waxaa taas ka biyo diiday xoogaga Muqdisho iyagoo ugu baaqay inay hubka dhigaan Itoobiyaanka. Goobaha ganacsigga Muqdisho ayaa guud ahaan la xiray ,waxayna dadka u wada dareereen dagaalka si ay kaga qayb qaataan. Guud ahaan waxaa degan goobihii dagaalada ka dhaceen shalay iyo manta waxaana dagaalka wajahay Madaxtooyadda ,iyadoo xoogaga Muqdisho ay haatan ka dagaalamayaan meel ku dhaw Isguulka 15May halka qaar kalana ay ku sii siqayaan dhinaca Otto Otto oo ku dhaw Madaxtooyada. Ciidamadda Ugandheeyska ayaa la wareegay amaanka Madaxweyne Yusuf iyadoo la hadal hayo inuu dalbaday in laga saaro Magaaladda oo diyaarad deg dega loo dalbo. Waxaa aad u adag sida ay diyaarad ku soo geli karto hawadda Muqdisho marka laga qiyaas qaato nuuca gantaalkii lagu dhiftay mid ka mida diyaaradaha dagaalka Itoobiya oo duqeyn dhinaca cirkaa manta ka waday agagaarka geed jacayl Muqdisho. Xoogaga Muqdisho qaar ka mida ayaa lagu qoray inay wajahaan dhinaca Shibis oo uu ku jiro Madaxweyne Yusuf laakiin wali wax dagaala kama dhicin degaankaas. Abaanduulka Xoogaga Muqdisho ayaa ku hanjabay in Cabdilahi Yusuf uu mari doono wadadii uu Maray Madaxweynahii Laybeeriya Mr Somuel Doe. Hogaamiyihii Leberia waxaa lagu jiid jiiday Wadooyinka Caasimadda dalkaas ee Manravio kadib markii ay kacdoonka Muqdisho mid la mida ku sameeyeen xoogag uu horkacayay Mr Charles Prinson,waloow libintaa la siiyay Charles Taylor. Hogaamiye Somuel Doe wuxuu ahaa kaligii taliye madax adag oo xasuuq badan ka geeystay Leberia ,wuxuuse ku aakhirsaday in telefishinada Caalamka laga sii daayo isagoo Caruur iyo Haween ay cad cad u jar jarayaan oo meeydkiisa la jiid jiidayo wadooyinka. Lama ogga guusha dhanka ay raaci doonto hasse yeeshee dagaalka waa uu sii xoogeeysanayaan waxaana soconaya mid fool ka fool ah. Wariyaashii Waagacusub ee ay xalay qabsadeen Itoobiyaanka ayaa la soo daayay iyaga iyo gaarigii ay wateen,waxayna sheegeen inaan wax jirdila lagu sameeyn http://www.waagacusub.com/isdhiibid.htm

Muj.Red, I think markey dhii'da gaarto inuu dhoocileeyo waa gartii . Waxa laga sameeyey Illaahbaa og, balse ninka sidiisa oo kale u hadla dumar-ku-dhex kore ayunbuu iila egyahay . Xox Lol, Englishkaa ku adag miyaa? War saa maad i tiraahdid, maansha wiilku wax fahmi waa! Anyways, thats all folks. I done posting for today.

Lol, Azmaya gobanimo hadey u dhalasho tahay, maxay tahay gobanimada ogolaata gaalo daba-dhiliflaynteeda? Bal ii sheeg taa.

^^ I think you are forgeting something, Econ. Look at our posts, to everyone one of them, you replied to them in one way or another . What does that tell you? Shaqa-la'aanta aad sheegeysid, waa hadeyba jirto, is something you share with us . You only brought attention to the things, that are true, that you wouldn't want others to label you with lol. Its called self-insecurity projection. Nothing new there. The other thing is, when we talked about politics and the prospect of regression, you went into coupling. What make you jump into this section? Tell us, because as psychologists say, everyone is his/her secrets or fears. Of all the other things you could call us, you called us a couple! Again, this says alot about you... Mentioning buraanbur iyo couple in the same sentence is a strong hint to something- and I am not going to say it lol. Hakugu taagnaato

How can you be so sure? If you were to be sure, you need a regression whereby your current viewpoint of the world is deconstructed, and you are transfered back to the time when you were 4 years old in order to reconstruct your mindset. Only then could you be sure that what I said about you isn't the case . If reconstruction is successfully achieved and you are asked the same question, to which you give the same answer, then, you could say you are sure. But till then, you are, my friend, a subject to be suspected of indoctrination.

^It is best to reserve judgement sometimes, especially when expressing it may constitute something that can be seen as wholly ingenuine.

4 years old is an impressionale age, especially at a time when everything that was happening, was down to clannism. So, the chances are that as you grew older, a great deal of indoctrination has been conducted on you. Hence your inability to differentiate between what it means to be a clannist and what is not. Due to an early age indoctrination, could it not be that clannism has become an unrecognizable second nature of yours?

Originally posted by Dhucdhuc & Dheylo: Paragon That is their excuse but what about those in daispora who cant think straight and rational? What kind of anger really justifies the barbarity of these actions? I am all for fighting these invaders and their supporters, and I really do appreciate the level of anger and hatred for these invaders, but how can one who is sitting behind his computer with a cup of coffee on a nice cushy seat justify this? Mujaahid: Taking the money from them, I dont see it wrong. Dhucdhuc, what pleasure or displeasure comes from justifying or condemning these acts, since they are already done? These people you say 'are sitting behind a computer' have no authority by themselves to make their words encourage more 'draggings'. Their stance is aimed at the emotional level of those who are making claim to decency. It seems lately, expecting people to be apologetic and condemning is a phenomenon transfered from the war-on-terror to every other issue. The whole practice is becoming way of keeping an image of what one is. It is wholly unbecoming Che- These fighters are as random folks as you can imagine. They are ciyaalka xaafada resisting the intrusion. Thats all.

^^Azmaya, who told you the lies that you lived under royalty? Your Eedo? Let us see, where did you live? Somewhere near Garacad where the consumption of a plate of meat is a matter that can trigger a local conflict, right? Believe me young lady, when I was younger, I have been told the same lies. They even made me believe that I am the decendant of a 'blue-blooded royal linage' . But most people grow out of it. Some of them continue to live under these childhood possessions and illusions, which only makes you come across as rediculous .

^^Because they are true? At least it is good of you to say 'I don't give a damn'. It only points to one thing, that these accusations are true. And if they weren't you would try to refute them. Wouldn't you?

Muj.Red, Lol. From the look of it, there is very little he and his helpers understand. The funy thing about the comment of 'united Somalia' is that, for a long time we knew the Somali nation has struggled to stay strong and united in the face of Ethiopia. The only enemy that had worked tirelessly to divide Somalia was Ethiopia. Now, someone who has invited and supported our enemy is talking about division? Not to mention, the very people who have had their share in creating the divisionist Puntland! It is, really, a new version of Broadway Comedy. And guess who the audience is?

Lets not be over-dramatic here. Anger is madness and results in many things. So acting all shocked is somewhat wanting. If you think you are rational, then, be rational enough to understand the irrational nature of anger hell-bent on revenge. Thats all.

Originally posted by Muj. Red Sea: Somalieconomist, I wish I could, but the man who has put you in your position doesn't need one like I who is still taking ESL classes like I. Lol Muj. Red, hadaalkaaguu dhibsaday. He can't take your condemning words. The same is the case with all who have a guilt-trip. They know it so repitition of the same true words overwhelms them . Ku wad sxb, haka joojinin.

Originally posted by TheSomaliEconomist: Paragon, I don't have time for the kindergarten talk today. I just want everyone to know that I'm pro-somalinimo and anti-secession/unfunctional governance.... As for the somaliness you mentioned, I'm still active in several projects in Somalia so I guess it's tiptop. Econ, as for your Muslimness, you weren't sure where you stood and asked for my assistance in knowing how others see you. I told you how I see your lot. If you still entertain the thought that you haven't committed wrong in supporting the killing of Muslims by a Christian state, I say, let that thought everporate. Entertain yourself no more, you are what you suspect you might have become. You put yourself there so live with it. As for your Somalinimo, you know your Somaliness only equates to what you can get your hands on: project procurements. What is evident in your above paragraph is that Somaliness for you means being active in a project, nothing more. Your Somaliness doesn't contain th real impulses that drives many of us, to feel pained about the wrongs done to our people and nation. For you, and for many others who support the TFG, the principle reason of governance is to have the economic advantage. This is evident in words of all pro-TFG. So tell me, what have you been promised to still talk about projects even when questioned about your Somaliness?

? Originally posted by TheSomaliEconomist: Dear Paragon , I'm doing very well alhamdulilah and I'm also very firm in my muslim faith. I appreciate your concern Well, aint that great to hear. But you only tell that your faith is 'very firm'. Don't you doubt your faith when you fully know you are in the same camp with an Orthodox Christian? You spread your Salli right where he had urinated minutes ago and there is nothing you could do about it? Remember, you are what your friends are. What about your Somaliness because you didn't mention it? Is it still firm or have you exchanged it for something else? Like getting a promise of getting a contract to this: THIS? Remember again, what makes economic sense doesn't make common-sense! towards my psychological condition and hope inaadan adiguna isku-dhax-waalan. I'm afraid your in the risk-zone for being schizophrenic since you one day announce your departure from the forum and the other seem to be back and debating like there is no tomorrow. Lol. Yes, I left this section. But then again, I reasoned I should come back to help the likes of you understand the grave mistakes they have and are still making. If I don't do that, who else would? You can thank me later after I have convinced you . Your semantic gymnastics however, is a bit weak since you didn't answer the question you challenged in first place (if you guys have the ability to judge who's muslim or not). Replying with lines supposed to resemble scientific analysis may impress and amuse the local Mujahideen Club. On a further note I suggest you pay heed to the saying; 'Don't throw stones at your neighbors', if your own windows are glass', and start your admirable research on your own ICU peers as well as the recent 'mujahids' and their nature. I'm looking forward to your work on the 'Psychological profiling of modern day surwaalgaabs (& virtul mujahideens). Econ, I think before judging people, it is good to hear their side of the story. When I asked you about what you think or feel of yourself, I was doing just that. But it seems you have no facaulty that is able to use the opportunity I gave you to your advantage. I am not a scholar, but then again it doesn't need a scholar to judge those who betray their nation and religion, does it? Look, this is what I have for you in judgement, you are anti-Muslim hence the opposite of a Muslim. You did throw your lot with a Christian thus you resemble more of a Christian in loyalty than a Muslim. There, a judgement. it doesn't require that much brain cells. Does it?

Originally posted by Superfluous: ^^these are the kinds of pics NGONGE wants to see. CNN style, clean pics, he doesnt want to see the reality. Superfluous, I think, whoever his audience, NGONGE's attempt to be civil in the face of raw (and sometimes brute) reality is pointless. No pictures ( dead Ethiopians) were posted in this topic; only a link to them was provided. That is not against any site's rules. Trying to be civil but on the wrong thread .