^I am not more Muslim than you,I knew that not before,but the fact that you support Abdullahi Yusuf to the fullest even when he makes countless mistakes is unMuslim like. Okay another question for you Duke,what about Xamar,it's a peaceful city,why do you think it should be taken over by force since that wasn't the case for Hargeysa ,mise runta iska sheego qabiilka isaga ah ayaad magaranaysaayeey......finish the sentence..

What about if it true,does it belong in the jokes section,man the somalis in abroad are brain dead for sure...

Jaylaani, the current Admin is dead ,ninkii waxan kudaydaana wuu ku aakhiro seegayaa,dad la iska xidho oo lagu tuhmo danbi ama la isku xidho bilaa danbi waxaynu ku ogayn Siyad Barre,goormaynu noqonay isagii oo kale? Diinta Islamka ah,ha lagu xukum SL iyo meelkasta oo ay Somali degto,kabacdi markaas ayey walaaltinimo jiri doontaa,xumaantan jirtaana markaas albaabka ayey kabaxaysaa,oo waxaad arki doontaa Hargeysa oo laba laab qurux badnaatay,nabad iyo sharaf ku nool yiin dadkii waayo Allah ayey sharfeen iyagan Allah sharfayaan,xumaan oo dhan ahna ka ilaalinaya. taas ayaan rabaa anigu. Kamalu Diin, Walaalo,adigu waxan aad is dhexwado maba saconayaan,wax USC layidhaahdaa majirto,warkaa waa laga tagay inaabti. Indha Cadde,waa shakhsi sida Riyale uu shakhsi uyahay,toobad keen Allahna markasta way banaanta.Meeshu aad leeday wuu haystaana,dadka degan ayaa raba in Shareecada Islamka lagu xukumo,laakin dhibtaado waxa weeye adigu qabiilkiisa ayaad ku nacday ninka,aduunkana Satelite ayaa lagu tartamayaa adna halkanaad kamuujinaysaa nacayb qabilnimo oo aad uqabto reerkaas isaga ah,mana wanagsana if you ask me.

^a Muslimnimo aside now: answer this question which is regarding the political plan of the TFG: After the TFG gotten in talks with SL,end result that SL turned down the offer of TFG to reunite,then what? don't dissapoint me...

Ahmed Guray,for goodness sakes,is it too much to ask if you and this so called Kamalu Diin have edited your posts,I can't understand a thing that is coming out of your mouth,edit please,how hard cant that be for the love of Islam.lol

You said it there buddy,Somali waa Somali soo maaha,okay answer this question my friend,the current TFG is made of formula 4.5 which makes whole tribes becasue of their number as .5s,does that have any position in Islamic sharica or even westrn idealogy such democracy? I am disppointed that you haven't understood the point though Sh.Khalaf,the reason the Somalis are having problems isn't because every clan has his own region,in fact SL and PL have been the two healthy spots in the last decade,the real deep rooted problems of the Somalis is the fact that they are Muslims but yet dont' evolved their governments and their daily lives around the name of Islam,however they chose to believe and rally behind an idealogy named Somalinimo instead of Muslinimo. the Mr.Me,you are talking about justified the inhumane acts of barre,his comments are useless for you to even agree wil put you in rather dangerous postion. All in all,a nation under the Islamic sharica law is my idealogy,is it yours once again.

Ahmed Guray,what compelled you to say such? explain how you came up with that? As for Kamalu Diin,I have nothing to do with Omar Arte Ghalib or Tuur,they were politicians,and I am just one individual who soughts for better ways forward while living in this cureent and harsh reality of African continent. Ask me about Sh.Dirir,ask me about Sh.Mustafe X.Ismail Haruun,these are my role models. USC leaders such Qaybdii,Qanyare,Muse Suudi Yalaxow were chased out in rather bloody conflict,if the ICU was the "USC" itself,then I wonder why they kicked them out,because usually those who have the same interests dont' fight or get in conflict,they were even from the same sub clans,which is great example that the Islamic courts union is shining star. But Kamalu Diin,let me ask you of why support Abdullhi Yusuf and his corrupt and nonexisting so called TFG?

Jay, I am concern for all Muslims to put it even to that extend. Duke,I included Riyale,so that you dont' come to me later and say 'you don't say anything about SL,why only Pl and TFG'nonsense,xagee laguu qadaa adiga. another Question,how bout if SL refused any dialogue with the TFG regarding reunification? Kamalu Diin,I won't lead anyone to Somaliland,the poeple of SL will rule themselves in accordance with the Sharica law,if that comes at the expense of chasing out Riyale Kahin or anyone else who follows.

How bout if I told you that I am somalilander and I am a Muslim. then Somaliland ha noolaato! what do you think of that? I still don't know this Somalinimo thang that people are runing around with,is it much more than being simple Somali,waa amare? Khalaf,get something straight,if SL was recognised today and in turn were fully in accordance with the Islamic sharica,would that make them against Islam in any way,assuming that the South was ruled with let us say democratic government? this would mean,although SL was not with the rest,yet it would be the better since it was functioning under the Islamic sharica. Walaaltinimo,isjacayl,wada noolaasho,kuma jirto Somalinimo,waxay kujirtaa diinta islamka.Hadii Somali ay isjecshay mabay sidaa isku gasheen. ahmed Guray,what does a factory has to do with this discussion? To answer your question anyway,the cement factory and everything would be taken care of Insha Allah with better leader who is faithful Muslim,Riyale isn't that.

^Cadde Muse is a good leader? Abdullahi Yusuf is good leader, Riyale Kahin a good leader? if you think these people have what it takes to build any sort of nation or region or whatever,they you are hereby not normal,learn from history.These people aimed to rule by the gun or consitition based on influence from abroad etc... you need to think bit better,you seem to be assasinating your human decency. One question for you,since the TFG was elected(can't stop laughing) to rule ALL somalis,then how do you think THEY plan to take the areas that outside of its control such as SL and now the ICU? As for Pl changing when its residents decide to change,my friend I have always been with you on this,I have said it,that there shouldnt' be any forced involved in order to tell anyone else of what to do,however,will Cadde Muse let them decide their destiny? go ahead sing it to me...

^buddy,I am not a nationalist under the cloak of Somaliwayne of Siad Barre's idealogy.The man critize portions of the Quran,so why even associate with him as some have. There is only one Islam,clan states you speak aren't any worse of if we were united and were ruled under a facist regime,like we were.Actually they are better,because Hargeysa is by far better than before,so is Burco,Borame,Ceerigabo,Las Anod,etc.. What we need is a Muslim who is faithful and has the trust of Allah,there is no such thing as nationalist and Muslim,a good clean Muslim period is what we need,if you can grasp that,then we are on the same wagon,if not its' not the end of the world. The difference is that one of them is systamically just a union,just the failed one,and on the other hand,the Islamic nation that I am pushing for is one that is loved by Allah,which is destined to last forever,which gives equal protection and rights to its people which is that guaranteed by the Quran and the Sunnah,this is the perfect union,anything else is just huge myth.

^I have better things to do then pay attention to your arogant point of view which you and your likes recycled in here everyday.I have life if you know what I mean,I don't know if that is the case for you. Let us even discuss Puntland,where there not protests in Pl itlself against the Ethiopian troops,I am with those people who have let their voices heard loud and clear in teh Mosques in Pl,you have no ear to hear it,because you are too busy trying to defend a tired and lame warlord. The TFG,what TFG? wasn't the TFG elected to "govern" Somalia,and aren't overwhelming majority of Somalis speaking out against it,buddy pay attention,the TFG you speak of is non existance. As for Northerner,what does his supposed comments have to do with Red Sea,I have my own opinions and he has his,you even have your so called opinion allthough it can't be regarded as a healthy one.Once again,realize that all men are not created to equally express their views,some bad and some good,and some are like yours which are beyond idiocy. If SL continous imprisoning its own people,then Somalilander themselves will overthrow this so called admin. in Hargeysa and will implement a faithful leader just like Sheikh Sharif Axmed,PL will dot the same. I am with those that argue from the point of view of the interests of the main populace,you and your likes on the other hand argue from the point of view warlords,thugs etc...

Originally posted by Caamir: "Yes I was Red Sea but now Ridwaan--From geographical identification to religous Identity. I will defend my "Somaliland" regardless of what is said of it, won't address its inherent, unresolved issues and human rights abuse. Nevertheless, I will focus on things I basically don't politically and culturally associate with and in fact would never be part of it. I do approve and think of our Northern to be very distinct and different than the south. Yes we are a country of its own"" I as a Caamir have decided to fastly scroll down those rumblings. I was Red sea,then Ridwan,now back to red sea,that is a name change,as Duke was named valentin Duke or something like that.That is that. However,you have already said it,you don't bother reading Red Sea'posts,therefore,it's wrong to accuse of anything.As for SL human rights abuse and its problems within,well once again how would you know if I have already since you are not paying attention to anything I post,not that I cared if you did,but if you wanted to accuse,you must know who you are accusing beforhand,this is another thing that is seriously wrong with you. Your thoughts are very weak and geeljire like,offcourse everyone knows I do politically and culturally relate to southern Somalis,not just because they are Somalis,but becasue they are also Muslims,how low for you to think otherwise? pretty disgusting. Caamir and G.Duke,I fully support Islamic nation under one Muslim and faithful leader,you on the other hand support tired and lame former Prisnor and currently the wife of Melez,in anyone' point of view this would be redicolous. Northern to be different and distinct of its own? you actually said that,not me. but one thing is for sure,if you think everything will come under your uncle warlord Xabashi Yusuf,then you are dreaming,and Islamic nation is hereby a possiblity that is what I am aiming for,do you have anything against that. Your mentalities are christian like,for you to be refered as a Muslim is a huge mistake from Ridwan aka Red sea.

^I thought the war started allready.You have accused the ICU of talking the talk,I think the TFG has lately became just that.The stage is set,oo wait now the stage is set,no no not yet,okay now,it's set really now it's set.....I call that fulaynimo.

^lol..haday garteen in ay khatar caalamka kusoo fool leeday,the ICU were saying this from the begining before the U.N decions and before the Tigray troops from Ethiopia entered,it's too late now. As they say,dont' enter the ocean if you can't swim.

Jaylaani, so you are saying we can't critize the current SL admin? are you also saying that we don't need Islamic law in SL? these are my views,we need Islamic sharica to be implemented in Somaliland in rather peaceful way offcourse,we also need to get rid of these corrupt Siyad Barre's former supporting casts,if you agree with me on this,then I don't now what confusion you are speaking of. If you are saying that I support the ICU,my answer is that who wouldnt' want to support one who has brought peace in Southern Somalia which was in turmoil in everyway for nearly two decades,you should be happy and in supportive of that as well,since you are muslim. Jaylaani,you have numerous times accused red sea of being confused,I think when it comes to you and I,I might be agreed with by the average Somalilandder today more often.Because SL lately has done nothing right,therefore it deserves to be critised from every corner,I am sorry if you arent' capable of doing that,but I have and will. Kamalu Diin, speaking of confused fellow,how bout this guy named Kamalu Diin,I am still not able to understand this guy's position. Red Sea has had a position,to be ruled in accordance with the Sharica law,if you think this is wrong,adaa cirka roob ku og..

....and here some people who speak of unity,but that is not the thing that amazes me though,everyone can seek unity,but the irony of all is that they justify the actions of Siyad Barre and yet they call for Unity,what a disgracefull being they are. some great memories from the past when Somalia was united,some dark memories of Siyad days of during his regime,and the recovery of the poeple in SL to recover from the civil wars...Alxamdulilah that we have recovered,all in thanks to Allah for making us able.

^could you please edit,because you are trying to make a point yet you can't manage to get it out on the screen.

^it means,my views are always with the right side,if Somaliland does something wrong,I will speak against it,if the ICU does something wrong I will speak against it and so on...it's never this way or the highway. As Warmoog said,we can always have different opinions on issues regarding everything,in fact disagreements are human nature,it shouldn't come to shock everyone that Somalilander critizes his own Admin,I also do the same for every so called leader any where.

^reality on the ground is what is all about,it doesn't make sense to chit chat fantasy from your living room then claim that this is the way everything should work. What amazes me is that some folks actually think it's a sin for Somaliland secceed,do you believe this Khalaf? As for idealogy of Somaliwayne,it was the thought of some men,we have witnessed it was the thoughts of men like Siad Barre,even let us say that Siad Barre was successful in reaching that goal,but yet he ruled it under a facist as he did in former Somali republic,then what good would have came out of that,if you take us as an example....look where we are today. I am advancing far better idealogy,the idealogy that I am advancing is Islamic nation under trusthworthy leader with a body of government that is fully balanced throughout all tribes regardless of their numbers.This is benficial for today and herafter,our dunya and Akhira would be brighter,but to sing the tunes of Aabow Siyad,raise meaningless piece of cloth then call yourself a Somali patriot isn't going to get you anywhere.The world has past that stage,we are in a era where you need to make it happen or simply just shut up. I envisioned an Islamic nation even far greater just Somalis,I envision an Islamic nation that even includes Oromia etc..this probably long shot,so to stay on course,I would say I am huge supporter of Islamic nation under one faithful leader,which is in everyone best interest.

I have said it numerous times before and I will say it again,the xaq shall prevail.No sane somali with damiir will ever fight from the same trenches as dirty, filthy HIV/AIDS carriers of Xabashis,we are witnessing the first signs,surely it won't be the last time that happens.

Do I not speak against the arresting of Wadaads,Saladiin,etc...you need to pay attention more,I am against SL leaders,I am against the TFG,I am against the PL leaders,and I am proud supporter of whatever the ICU stands for,I defend that with iron will and I will do so in the future.You speak of home,Hargeysa and Xamar are one of the same for me,I am not a clanist like you,I don't invite Tigray to fight for me in hate you have for certain tribes..so keep all the smiles,soon it will be fade into memory in the past...so keep smiling buddy. Waxaa layidh wanku(adhi) indhihiisu cirka ma'arkaan ilaa laqalo(la bireeyo),this is for the dulmi lot,which you are part of. To ordinary somalis out there: our differences have to stay put for now as we have bigger issue at hand,the noble struggle against the invaders of ardul Xabash. Good luck gentelman.

If you people believe that justice should be served and if fair trail should be granted to everyone,then you should know that these men whether they are Wadaads or otherwise are locked for the wrong reasons,if hate for wadaads is making miss the truth,then at least know that much. terrible day for SL,the people should protest against these evil and inhumane acts.

Che,there is no other option left buddy but to defend the Muslim Somali Umah from the invading evil forces,these so called peace keepers know that peace exists in teh region,so what is there to keep peace of,I know as well as many others here that is not the case,they are merely to dismantle the ICU which is the hope of the Somali people,we shall all fight those who are trying to disrupt it equally shoulder to shoulder.They have refused to withdraw from the Muslim Somali territory,then what should they do,should they sit back and watch,the young and old must fight together in this,everyone must do their part. dont' believe the nonsense though,we all know the ladies aren't going to fight so are the little kids,however the teenagers are fully capable of holding their own ground,so they must fight,it's their duty,if not who will. The little kids and women are to show that EVERYONE is on the same page and they are future warriors as well as those who will take the torch as the old moves to the next realm. Gen.Duke and his dulmi lot are all laughs today,because they think starving African HIV propelled thugs will protect them from the ICU,we shall see Insha Allah,I puting my money and effort to making sure that doesn't happen,the dulmi lot are welcome to do the same on their side,may the rightous win Insha Allah.

^Masha Allah,all inluding the young and the old alike are ready to die for just cause in defending their land from the inavders of ardul Al Xabash,nothing wrong with that except they should have the backing and support of all Muslims. As for Shiekh Dahir Aways,a great Mujaahid and has history of doing just that,kicking Xabashi's butt. You think that map is far from reality? I think,you will realize when it becomes just that,then you will be dumbfounded,by then it will be too late lad. Speaking of prisner,how bout col.Yey,currently wife of Melez and former prisnor as well.