Asalaamu Caleykum Waraxmatullaahi Wabarakaatuh!!! Maasha'allaah Ameenah!!! You could NOT have said it any better sis. lulla, It's about how u carry yourself sis, if u respect yourself and carry yourself in a matter that says hey "You ain't gettin none so don't even EXPECT it before u're married to me!!!" Then that's what u'll get but if u walk around like "Haye aboowe macaane..." It's all about intentions, are u looking for a husband or a boyfriend to keep u from being bored? You SHOULD NOT be having a boyfriend = physical display of affection which opens doors to sex. Husband to be = getting to know someone for intention of marriage, which is a respectable situation and demands respect if u carry yourself well. So without repeating myself any further I leave u with this: If you want a certain package espect to deal with ALL that's in it!!!

Asalaamu Caleykum Waraxmatullaahi Wabarakaatuh!!! Jazaakallaah Alfi Kheyr!!!

Asalaamu Caleykum Waraxmatullaahi Wabarakaatuh!!! I'm SPEECHLESS!!! This is a breathtaking poem, I just feel like this is the...I don't even have words to express it, it's utterly amazing wow!!! Umm it is as if I'm feeling the poem within me while reading it, it's overwhelming!!! It is the ideal poem for friends who later became lovers *Smiling* I've walked this path but never had words to express it, nor time to complete it...what is to come is still unseen but the feeling is known and felt. Really I'm out of words sis. PEACE

Asalaamu Caleykum Waraxmatullaahi Wabarakaatuh!!! Hey sis, again nice topic and a difficult one to reply to without being personal. Expressing feelings to me goes around the table of all relationships not only the intimate one with your significant other. As a young child I grew up in the US and was always taught to use words as "thank you, please, I love you, welcome, and SORRY" but when I tried to translate that back home to Somali people thought I was weird for saying "mahadsanid, fadlan, waa ku jeclahay, soo dhowaaw, and raali ahaaw" I was always looked at funny by neighbors but my family was a bit modern and had traveled around the world to know where I was coming from. But as general Somalis, we are a RUDE people on OTHER standards but for us back home it's OK because we never realized any difference. So I guess what I'm trying to say is maybe it is a 'CULTURAL' thing, and it begins with the basics "thank you and please." That's all folks!

Asalaamu Caleykum Waraxmatullaahi Wabarakaatuh!!! *****Daacad***** Fii Amaanillaah!!!

Asalaamu Caleykum Waraxmatullaahi Wabarakaatuh!!! I'm Too Busy Let's ponder upon this.... "People throw away what they could have, By insisting on perfection--which they cannot have, And looking for it where they will never find it. "In the Name of Allah Most Gracious, Most Merciful I'M TOO BUSY Everyday as I wake up at dawn My mind start working the moment I yawn There were many things to do, o dear! That's why I hastily did my Fajr prayer I didn't have the time to sit longer to praise the Lord To me rushing out after prayer is nothing odd... Since school, I had been busy every minute Completing my homework and handing it in My projects took up most of my time always No time did I have to Allah to pray Too many things to do and Dikr is rare For Allah, I really had no time to spare.. When I grew up and started my career Working all day to secure my future When I reached home, I preferred to have fun I chatted on the phone but I didn't read the Qur’an I spent too much time surfing the Internet Sad to say, my faith was falling flat... The only time I have left is weekends During which I prefer window shopping with friends I couldn't spare time to go to the mosque I'm too busy, that's the BIG EXCUSE... I did my five prayers but did so quickly After prayer, I didn't sit longer to reflect quietly I didn't have time to help the needy ones I was loaded with work as my precious time runs No time at all to visit a sick Muslim friend To orphans and elderly, I hardly lent a hand I'm too busy to do community service When there were gatherings, I helped the least My life was already full of stress So I didn't counsel a Muslim in distress I didn't spend much time with my family B'coz I thought, doing so is a waste of time... No time to share with non-Muslim about Islam Even though I know, inviting causes no harm No time to do Sunnah prayers at all All these contribute to my imaan's fall.. I'm busy here and busy there I've no time at all, that's all I care I went for religious lessons, just once in awhile Coz I'm too busy making a pile... I worked all day and I slept all night Too tired for Tahajjud and it seemed not right To me, earning a living was already tough so I only did basic deeds but that's not enough.. No time at all, to admire God's creation No time to praise Allah and seek His Compassion Although I know how short is my life For Islam, I really didn't strive.. Finally the day comes, when the Lord calls for me And I stood before Him with my Life's History I feel so guilty b'coz I should have prayed more Isn't that what a Muslim lives for? To thank Allah and do more good deeds And the Qur’an is for us all to read.. Now at Judgment Day, I'm starting to fret I've wasted my life but it's too late to regret My entry to Paradise depend on my good behavior But I've not done enough nor did proper prayer My "good deed book" is given from my right An angel opened my "book" and read out my plight. Then the angle chided me.... "O You Muslim servant, you are the one, Who is given enough time, yet not much is done Do you know that your faith is loose? saying "no time" is only an excuse. Your "good deed book" should be filled up more with all the good work you stood up for.. Hence, I only recorded those little good deeds As I say this, I know your eyes will mist.. I was about to write some more, you see But I did not have, THE TIME to list"....... PEACE Fii Amaanillaah [This message has been edited by Ahlaan (edited 05-16-2002).]

Asalaamu Caleykum Waraxmatullaahi Wabarakaatuh!!! I don't know the situation and what u told is very little so I'm gonna be as general as I can: Love is not PERMANENT and if u can POSSIBLY look at the situation with your head rather than your heart then do so and write them down, think about it, and discuss them with either those involved or close people u can trust. And keep in mind that U'll be the one in the situation not the suggestors (that's why I cannot tell u what to do, u're in it) And pray on it, make istighaarah!!! *If what they don't want is because he doesn't pray (LOOSE HIM CAUSE THE MARRIAGE IS NULL AND VOID) *If it's because he cannot support u, that's negotiable *If it's because of his QABIIL, GET LOGICAL that NEVER mattered *If it's because he's just a looser in their eyes talk to them about how u feel and what u think (your parents) and keep in mind that they see further than u can EXPERIENCE in age. BUT ALL IN ALL SIS DON'T JUST BE A REBEL THIS IS YOUR ENTIRE LIFE WE'RE TALKING AND THAT OF YOUR FUTURE CHILDREN INSHA'ALLAH!!! SO THINK CAREFULLY PLEASE AND KEEP IT REAL AGAIN THINK WITH YOUR HEAD AND NOT YOUR HEART EVENTHOUGH IT MAY SEEM HARD!!! PEACE FII AMAANILLAAH

Asalaamu Caleykum Waraxmatullaahi Wabarakaatuh!!! I don't know the situation and what u told is very little so I'm gonna be as general as I can: Love is not PERMANENT and if u can POSSIBLY look at the situation with your head rather than your heart then do so and write them down, think about it, and discuss them with either those involved or close people u can trust. And keep in mind that U'll be the one in the situation not the suggestors (that's why I cannot tell u what to do, u're in it) And pray on it, make istighaarah!!! *If what they don't want is because he doesn't pray (LOOSE HIM CAUSE THE MARRIAGE IS NULL AND VOID) *If it's because he cannot support u, that's negotiable *If it's because of his QABIIL, GET LOGICAL that NEVER mattered *If it's because he's just a looser in their eyes talk to them about how u feel and what u think (your parents) and keep in mind that they see further than u can EXPERIENCE in age. BUT ALL IN ALL SIS DON'T JUST BE A REBEL THIS IS YOUR ENTIRE LIFE WE'RE TALKING AND THAT OF YOUR FUTURE CHILDREN INSHA'ALLAH!!! SO THINK CAREFULLY PLEASE AND KEEP IT REAL AGAIN THINK WITH YOUR HEAD AND NOT YOUR HEART EVENTHOUGH IT MAY SEEM HARD!!! PEACE FII AMAANILLAAH

Asalaamu Caleykum Waraxmatullaahi Wabarakaatuh!!! I don't know the situation and what u told is very little so I'm gonna be as general as I can: Love is not PERMANENT and if u can POSSIBLY look at the situation with your head rather than your heart then do so and write them down, think about it, and discuss them with either those involved or close people u can trust. And keep in mind that U'll be the one in the situation not the suggestors (that's why I cannot tell u what to do, u're in it) And pray on it, make istighaarah!!! *If what they don't want is because he doesn't pray (LOOSE HIM CAUSE THE MARRIAGE IS NULL AND VOID) *If it's because he cannot support u, that's negotiable *If it's because of his QABIIL, GET LOGICAL that NEVER mattered *If it's because he's just a looser in their eyes talk to them about how u feel and what u think (your parents) and keep in mind that they see further than u can EXPERIENCE in age. BUT ALL IN ALL SIS DON'T JUST BE A REBEL THIS IS YOUR ENTIRE LIFE WE'RE TALKING AND THAT OF YOUR FUTURE CHILDREN INSHA'ALLAH!!! SO THINK CAREFULLY PLEASE AND KEEP IT REAL AGAIN THINK WITH YOUR HEAD AND NOT YOUR HEART EVENTHOUGH IT MAY SEEM HARD!!! PEACE FII AMAANILLAAH

Asalaamu Caleykum Waraxmatullaahi Wabarakaatuh!!! I don't know the situation and what u told is very little so I'm gonna be as general as I can: Love is not PERMANENT and if u can POSSIBLY look at the situation with your head rather than your heart then do so and write them down, think about it, and discuss them with either those involved or close people u can trust. And keep in mind that U'll be the one in the situation not the suggestors (that's why I cannot tell u what to do, u're in it) And pray on it, make istighaarah!!! *If what they don't want is because he doesn't pray (LOOSE HIM CAUSE THE MARRIAGE IS NULL AND VOID) *If it's because he cannot support u, that's negotiable *If it's because of his QABIIL, GET LOGICAL that NEVER mattered *If it's because he's just a looser in their eyes talk to them about how u feel and what u think (your parents) and keep in mind that they see further than u can EXPERIENCE in age. BUT ALL IN ALL SIS DON'T JUST BE A REBEL THIS IS YOUR ENTIRE LIFE WE'RE TALKING AND THAT OF YOUR FUTURE CHILDREN INSHA'ALLAH!!! SO THINK CAREFULLY PLEASE AND KEEP IT REAL AGAIN THINK WITH YOUR HEAD AND NOT YOUR HEART EVENTHOUGH IT MAY SEEM HARD!!! PEACE FII AMAANILLAAH

Asalaamu Caleykum Waraxmatullaahi Wabarakaatuh!!! As someone already mentioned family planning is allowed in Islam. And I cannot come from any other angle than Islam (that's how it should be IDEALY) Like Indhadeeq mentioned earlier, u have to RAISE them after u HAVE them. Before back home I think we went along the terms of IT TAKE A VILLAGE TO RAISE A CHILD, and apart from the 'villages' we lived in our families itself were as large as a village which we don't have that previlage here: Here u have to keep them AWAY from their environment full of HOMOSEXUALITY and all these IMMORAL standards. So YES for planning and on what grounds is up to u but I would MOST definitely suggest people PRACTICE FAMILY BEFORE HAVING THE FAMILY: CHOOSE A GOOD MATE CHOOSE GOOD NAMES FOR YOUR CHILDREN CHOOSE THEIR ENVIRONMENT CHOOSE WHAT U TEACH AND NOT TEACH AND MOST IMPORTANTLY GO WITH ISLAM!!! NO TRIAL AND ERROR THERE!!! There always more to say on this topic but I think u get my point PEACE FII AMAANILLAAH

First and Foremost this is not something made up, it actually occured at a university and this dialogue has been widely spread. What I get out of it is the weakness of some of us Muslims and the strengths of others. For EXAMPLE (and this is ONLY an EXAMPLE and not a IMPLICATION OF ANY SORT)The people from Nation of Islam, they are so well taught to dialogue and area GREAT speakers of philosophy, logic, reality, and they KNOW how to make their points (TRAINED WELL) even though they may have very little knowledge of Islam. On the other hand u have some of us who have been Muslim all our lives and may even be VERY knowledgeable but when put in front of a crowd or a fool like the professor we cannot avoid silence, which to ME (and MAYBE me alone) means PICK WHO U BATTLE WITH AND HOW U DO IT AND WITH WHAT U BATTLE FOR. Islam or GOD is NOT a topic to be taken lightly and one with even GREAT knowledge cannot handle it without the help of Allah SWT. that's my 2 cents!!! Ko...thanx for the reminder bro, I had lost my copy. PEACE

Wonderful topic and true indeed!!! Some don't know or even care to know how haram some things are. They just "follow the crowd" My input is: If you think your hips are too...whatever WHAT IF U DIDN'T HAVE THEM? If you think your hair is too...whatever WHAT IF U DIDN'T HAVE ANY? If you think you're too fat/skinny? WHAT IF YOU HAD A DISEASE THAT MAD U THAT WAY? C'mon be thankful for what u have AND/OR DON'T HAVE With this life comes tests of faith and patience and how u take it is up to you. Just remember u're here shortly and what u do with your time is what will count so don't be shallow and ungreatful. PEACE!!!

Why can't we just ANSWER the question? lol Anyhow, Amina as with any community that is displaced u'll have problems which does not and will NEVER pertain ONLY to Somalis, we're only 1 generation lost, how about Lebonon and Palestine and All the other Asian countries? C'mon lets all be real!!! It's not only a Somali problem, but one thing u have to give us credit for is we will NEVER take INTERFERENCE FROM OTHERS we may fight, kill, and argue amongst ourselves, but as u can see with the response u're getting no one else's 2 cents is cared for!!! That's my 2 cents and trust me, it'll be taken better than yours EVER will because after all I'M SOMALI!!! PEACE FII AMAANILLAAH!!! 'DON'T JUDGE OTHERS BEFORE U JUDGE YOURSELF!'

I thought knowing the answer to this and being somali was one in the same, baashaal hee qofkii kaseynin is LOST!!! This is soooooooooooo OLD!!!