RendezVous
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I thought Somalis were Muslims and better they go back and separate between Their Culture and ISLAM..Throwing the tenets and objectives of ISLAM as a religion aside caused a lot of social upheavals and suffering for Somalis.People kill innocent muslims,maim everyone children, people are enemies of each other and so on and so forth.
ONE ADVICE:
Practice ISLAM and see some changez..
ISLAM is about CADAALA(justice and
Equality),Brotherhood..It is said that a muslim is a brother of another muslim..I don't need to say more..I think everyone of you know where the real problems are.
There is something wrong to the entire Somali community(Djibouti to Tanzania)..
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Jazakallah Brother/sister
I will support our prophet Mohamed Saw until my last day in this world.May Allah grant him bounties in Jannah.I will also support him through teaching my children, grand children and relatives about our prophet and deen so that they continue to follow the DEEN and be steadfast muslims even after me insha-allah..
Muslims need to change and be STRONG...
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^^^Those who quote HOLY Qur’an verses with the objective of criticizing it and Islam do not need to be abused but RATHER to be challenged to substantiate their claims.Some interpret QURANIC verses according to their whims and fancy. These people have no objectivity but malice and prejudice.CHECK THE FOLLOWING INTERPRETATIONS AND THEIR MOTIVES AGAINST ISLAM..
1. When the Holy QURAAN writes about SELF DEFENSE OR AGAINST WAR like in the following verses:
“Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! Allah loves not aggressors.†Al-Qur’an 2:190
“And those who, when great wrong is done to them, defend themselves.†Al-Qur’an 42:39
They say ISLAM promotes TERRORISM2.When the Holy QURAAN writes about HIJAAB, keeping modesty and protecting women from filth like in the following verse:
24:31
"“And say(O Mohamed) to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what must ordinarily appear therof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands, their fathers, their husbands' fathers, their sons, their husbands' sons, their brothers, or their brothers' sons or their sisters' sons, or their women.."
They say ISLAM covers women3. When The prophet Mohamed (saw) says in his HADEETH(traditions of the prophet) about HOW WOMEN ARE VALUED IN ISLAM and are treated nicely like:
""The best among you is the one who is the best towards his wife"
The prophet talking to his daughters:
"‘O my daughter, you are about to leave the home in which you grew up, where you first learned to walk, to go to a place you do not know, to a companion to whom you are unfamiliar. By marrying you, he has become a master over you, so be like a servant to him, and he will become like a servant to you".
and also:
"‘O my daughter, if a woman were able to do without a husband by virtue of her father’s wealth and her need for her father, then you of all people would be most able to do without a husband, but women were created for men just as men were created for them"
They still say WOMEN have no rights, are harrasedSo on and so forth..
So when a MUSLIM GAY says something...we will still find it in THE HOLY QURAAN AND HADITH.
Don't worry..
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Originally posted by Caano Geel:Rendez-vous on this point least willing to express - though i fear he may not be the one throw a stone when the adulterer is brought in.Sure Caano..What I think is supposed to be done is:
Let anyone in this world come with a certain problem with his/her life or even continue with ANTI-ISLAM propagandas here and there.ISLAM gets stronger by talks on TERRORISM, WOMEN...like Women are "Hijabified"..women are harrassed or have no right..and so on.Now after a lot of hullabaloo...They realized ISLAM is the best religion as far as women are concerned.They kept quite..Now they are talking about TERRORISM AND even "A MUSLIM GAY " has the guts to add a bit to our ways of life.
For sure, The last solution will be to go back to what the Holy Quraan and Sunnah say..
In this 21st century as some like to call..the things mentioned in the HOLY QURAAN are still the same same things there now.Except for modifications..Clubs were belly dancing troupes of Carabta.. "drinks"..Khamrada are now properly manufactured..with nice labels..women are encouraged to be skinny and strip..for VALUE...Thiefs are on loose..no cutting of hands..prostitutes are on swing..GAYS were even there thousand of years before Prophet Mohamed saw..(During Prophet Lots)..so on and so forth.
Alhamdulillah we have to come with a solution from the quraan and Hadeeth.When the prophet was delivering the last sermon before he died, he encouraged us:
NEVER LEAVE THIS TWO THINGS: THE HOLY QURAAN AND SUNNAHMeaning that should there be any confusion within ISLAM..we should infact go back to the books.
Labelling this "ka lord" a .."MUSLIM GAY PEER"..
First a gay can never be a muslim coz he is already committing unlawful things in life while knowing it is against ISLAM.This GAY surely never prays..IN ISLAM we are told...The difference between US(muslims) and THEM(non-muslims) is SALAH(prayers)..anyone who leaves prayer is a non-muslim..So there is no way they can call him "A MUSLIM GAY PEER" unless the newsmedia wants to associate ISLAM with gays..
So do u wanna tell me this so-labelled "MUSLIM GAY PEER" is still a muslim...?When you answer that, I will be happy to go on..
Brother NUR may be able to help us on this issue.
Wallahu aclam.
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Originally posted by The Flipmode..:Here is a nice poem for our Beautiful Somali women and the response the author got for the poem..MacSomali-woman you're more beautiful that a satinypink rose,More beautiful than a starlit sky,More beautiful than a magenta sunset,More beautiful than the early morning rays of the sun,Than the hunting romantic song.The sound of your voice soothes the soulThe touch of your hand cures illness,I would stare in your dark eyes,enthralled by that you are...By a beauty that's incomparable.There's no one like you my somali-queenand you are my one and only somali-queenThis was dedicated to my somali-queens..May Allah bless them all for the represent the beauty that is somali.The poem really touched on Xaliimos who replied with an outstanding level of excitement...Here we sampled maybe the best of those replies..What is your opinion..?AnonymousWow,thanx. U truly do describe the essence of a somali womansom sisteryo' thanks ...it's really nice of you to say that!!Somalilady replied:TRUE!!THAT WAS SO NICE OF YOU SAY SOMETHING LIKE THATTHANKS AND WE MEAN FOR REALLY!MAD ALLAH BLESS U BRO.BYE AND TAKE FOR NOWPS:And we need more Somalis boys like U bro.dsreallady2000can i marry you....lol..
thanks for sweet lovely poem and it is about time some bros gave us some respect.......peaceAnonymous2Somlady MAD allah bless U lolur the man.keep it up brolove yaAnonymous3thanx bro ur so nice.......rumarried yet?
have a girl-friend?if not am interested
byeSAGALS.BROTHAT WAS SWEET BRO. BRAVO!!!Mahawow...i am shocked...bro may allah bless u and if all somali men were like u ...
NO somali girl would've dated out side her race...That was amazin!!!!SuleqaMansha Allah, where do they get you from bro.. This is a sign of a well bred somali man - just wish there was more of you arround..Unfortunately, most of the somali guys now seem to have an issue with us girls- what it is i don't understand ... but i am dying to know. any offers ?However, lets not forget the few good men and sisters Stand BY your men- coz at the end of the day we somaalis are gonna end up with each other.Peace, Love and happinessAnonymous4Thanx very much, i never realised somali guy can be so sweet and i'm glad you proved me wrong.Love you my somalian sweety.P.S thanks again from all the somali girls out there i know they liked it coz i'm a somali girl and more proud now because of you're poem.Anonymous5I LOVE YOU 2lol@thisaghahahahahaniggaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa bullshitu know its other wisebulllllllshitahahahhaaXAAWO TAAKO....hope your poem is reflecting your reality.....THAT WAS FANTASTIC STATEMENT FROM UHope most of somaliis r like u big broNo one admited our possition before utoo lee jeceel kugu waasho oo ku khanciso ilaah hakuu kaso....looooooool broSOMALIIS GIRL ~somalia girl~...oh honey,,, kalay mac aan ku siiyeeNimcoI think i have fallen in love.....with youThat was the most beautiful poem i have heard in a long time and the only one describing Somali women....May Allah Bless You and i'm jealous in your future wife....cuz she would be very lucky to have you as her man..Wish you the bestPeaceNimcoAnonymous6dearest u r one in million bro and i meant but why don't give us u email thnx again and i wish myallah look after u in this year bro.love u lotsxxxxxxxxAnonymous7dearest u r one in million bro and i meant but why don't give us u email thnx again and i wish myallah look after u in this year bro.love u lotsxxxxxxxxQalanjosxb qaraar aa ku hayo haye!maseer jooji sxb loooooooool,Queen pinHi that was the nice thing that any men has ever write now why can't somailan men be more like you and no girl would date other men that is'nt somalia but you same to be the only men i just hope there is more of you to go aroundand if you don't have a girl friend then E-mail me on ...i hope I'll here from you don't get me worrg I have got a boy friend but if you are nice then him then I have to think twic that any ways i hope you like me letter one day we just might meetbye from Queen pinI think it is time we start praising our Xaliimos..They have suffered much.is there something wrong with praising Somali women and treating them "JUST FINE"..
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However there was some scepticism from the Muslims in the audience. A young hijab-wearing student lambasted Alli for misreading the Quran and argued that Islam guaranteed rights for women.While I don't normally talk to gays/lesbians and others, all issues that must be addressed MUST follow the quraan and sunnah.This fellow thinks there were no GAYS before ISLAM...
Does he know about Prophet Lot's era.
Everything is in the Quraan and Hadeeth..There is nothing like 21st Century or 7th century..Drinking/sex/science/parenthood/brother/sisterhood/neighbours/women/men/rights/books etc
So we MUST three times before coming with outburst that will bring you problems in this world and hereafter.
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a nice quote
So is it 'safe' to conclude that since you're approaching Zero, that your Comment has a High Probability of being or approaching ZERO.Zero wants us to believe Saudi Culture Is ISLAM... 0=0 walahi
Religious brouhaha kulaha...
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Originally posted by makalajabti:I am wondering if Saudi Women feel like they need to be liberated from all the restrictions upon them?They are not even allowed to express their opinion!I think the notion you have is trying to relate Cultural aspects In Saudi Arabia to the reality of liberation.Although that culture of covering those nice women from head to toe must end..with exception of only ISLAMIC rules and regulations, to relate that to ISLAM is ridiculous if not ****** .ISLAM doesn't in any way say all the women should be covered like the way they are doing in Saudi Arabia..There is some exception to preserve moral and ethics in the society.I think that has to do with their culture.But because It is where ISLAM was first practised, they think it is ISLAM which is saying...Cover from head to toe..
or otherwise, makalajabti what do u meant!!
Did u hear about other tortures in India, china and every other part of the world.But this are all just Cultures..
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Originally posted by makalajabti:Ways to liberate women:-Empower them politically (let them run the country), in work place (let them apply for high-paid jobs/ executive)-More rights: the right to choose their husbands or divorce them without the husband's permission, right to not wearing the Hijab.- Education: encouraging girls to study and go to Uni.- A Break with the negative sides of tradition of patriarchal society eg: sexism!That is what I think about how to empower women!Any question?Yes Sister in ISLAM.....you are liberated now..do as you wish
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HII NI KALI MAZEE!!!!!!!!!!!
Four Kenyans were on death row for a very serious felony offence. They were given four types of the death penalty options to choose from:
1.Electric chair
2.Firing squad
3.Hanging
4.HIV Injection.
On the fateful day, the 4 Kenyans were taken straight to the Executioner to get killed.
The Jaluo man chose the electric chair; and boom he was gone!
The Kao(kalenjin) man chose the firing squad; A shot was fired, and boom he was gone.
The Kiuk man was lifted onto the noose by the Executioner and boom! he was gone!
The Luhya man walked confidently to the Executioner and selected the HIV Injection option.They inject a bottle of the deadly
virus into his veins and off he goes! He walks confidently to his cell(body)and tells his cellmates, pointing at the Executioner: "Abandu abajinga,shivamanyire khufwala ikondom!" (****** people, they do not know that I
am wearing condom).
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WHO IS SAYING ISLAM IS THE FASTEST GROWING RELIGION IN THE WORLD1.The CIA World’s Facts Book
2.BBC http://www.bbc.co.uk/
3.THE TIMES Tuesday, 9th November 1993
’Why Are British Women Turning To Islam’ by Lucy Berrington
4. USA TODAY,
5. ABC NEWS.com
6.The Junior Encyclopedia of Canada. Hurting Publishers. 1990. Vol 2 . p396
7.Dan Rathers, CBS NEWS
8.â€There are more Muslims in North America than Jews now.†NEWSDAY, March 7, 1989, p.4
9.MIKE WALLACE, 60 MINUTES
10.THE TIMES Tuesday, 9th November 1993
Islam: Misunderstood Throughout The World
By: James A. Bill (professor of government and director of the Reves Center for International Studies at the College of William and Mary in Virginia)
10.HILLARY RODMAN CLINTON, Los Angeles Times, May 31, 1996, p.3
11.NEW YORK TIMES, Feb 21, 1989, p.1
12.CNN, December 15, 1995
13.CONVERSIONS IN BRITAIN
Sunday Times (London, U.K.)
Rajeev Syal and Christopher Morgan
14.ABC News Broadcasted on BIC News 13 December 1997
Fastest-Growing Religion Often Misunderstood By Barr Seitz
15. President Clinton, White House Eid ul-Fitr presentation, Jan. 10, 2000.
16. Times of India
Thursday 12 July 2001 WASHINGTON:
17.Ohio News, Ohio.com Monday, November 27, 2000
Influx of Muslim immigrants, refugees attracting Americans to Islam BY JASON KEYSER .Associated Press Writer
18.World Almanac and Book of facts 1935 and Readers Digest Almanac and Yearbook 1983.
19. Seattle Times
’Muslim in America’: by Marc Ramirez staff reporter
Originally posted by Dhubad:quote:Originally posted by Blessed:Oi! pssst, pssst. Look what I've found (actually it found me)Islam will come back and rule the world again insahllah however long it takes. I wish I should see that day….! -
Iran: Then shut the Wack up up, already. Nobody believes you anyway. You were screaming that Iraq had nuclear weapons. You invaded, murdered thousands of innocent people, made a total mess of the country, and didn't find a single WMD. Now you are saying the same things about Iran, and without a single shred of proof, I might add!
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Originally posted by AYOUB_SHEIKH:1. Tyrants and apostates of our leaders
Because many of our muslim rulers work on non-muslim policies.for example US ordering us to do this and that.Yacni puppet Governments.They have to TELL US..But why? ask yourself...
2. Jews
They have been our enemies eversince we took JESUS and all the prophets to our side.
3. Christians
Coz we found 50,000 errors in their bible and took away their JESUS and also rubbished their TRINITY.
4. Evil scholars of Muslims
Although this is not a main concern but they confuse the muslim Ummah from time to time.
5. Hypocrites
Work for Israelis and Americans in the name of ISLAM.
6. Ignorance of our umma [the Muslim community]
THIS IS OUR BIGGEST PROBLEM..We have to make sure all our children..boys and girls, men/women are educated.We should know ISLAM itself.Spread ISLAM with our actions and deeds.Respect and know Our Women rights and so on.
The HOLY QURAAN said
"kuntum khaira umatin ukhrijat lilnaas, ta'miruuna bilmacruuf wa tanhawna cani almunkar"
Meaning "You are among the best Ummah from the whole world..u who call each other for the good deeds and criticise yourselves when doing Bad"
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Originally posted by Khayr:I don't think that Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world.There is a much...much...bigger and new Religionthat is overtaking every other religion and it grows at times-exponentially!Can you guess what Religion that is?Khayr ...Please tell us.
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Did u talk about a chissel...? :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by eastside_chick_fo_shizzel:salaam,wats up yalll im jus wnt too drop my salaam,im finally in,i dnt knw anythin bout somalia and stuff and im half sinporain and somalia grow up in the states and was born here i cnt read or speck somaliasoo pls tranlate for me plssssss cuz tht sucks not understands u knw how the deal isim wondering u guys trash talk like the somalia down ???????? and have a big mouthdnt be mad is kinda true let not lie aint good for your healthjus knw one thing im always jokinaint never serioz and crapand on more thingim all big u hear me baggy jeans big shirts and big heart soo dnot think im were tigth pants and all tight stuff like the somalaiz up in my sidebut we live far from them bab fluez u knw wat i meanbut lots somaliaz r kool no lie in thtim from oc in the asainz townpeace from cali landYowww Yowww....is raping RAPPING....? :rolleyes:
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Did u see How christians are jealous when u say about Islam's Growth...It is not us who wrote..Their own media..
ABC/CNN/even the CIA, The BBC.
"Obviously written, with an Islam agenda, by some sand digger just tryin to drum up some support for a dyin religion.Once CHRISTIAN AMERICA takes over a few more middle east countries (watch out IRAN you is next) they will all be issued KJV1611 Bibles.Meaning we are FIGHTING A WAR head on.. :mad: :mad:
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^^^I indicated that was her motive..
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Originally posted by Faridah:As for the initial topic. WHY are you even debating about something Islam forbids?So far the best quote..Did someone removed my previous thread..
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Acudhka..
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DEFINITION OF LIBERATION
Originally posted by makalajabti:Ways to liberate women:1-Let them strip and walk semi-naked, wear anything for a show.2-Empower them politically (let them run the country), in work place (let them apply for high-paid jobs/ executive)3--Let them attend swing clubs and wife swapping rings and brothels.4-More rights: the right to choose their husbands or divorce them without the husband's permission,5-right to not wearing the Hijab.6- Education: encouraging girls to study and go to Uni.Get a wacel and move on.7- A Break with the negative sides of tradition of patriarchal society eg: sexism!That is what I think about how to empower women!Any question?This is exactly what she is trying to say.That By doing almost everything against ISLAM..except for Education and the right to aspire in Life, She is going to be liberated.
do all nomads agreeeeeeee?
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THE WAY I WANT MUSLIM/SOMALI WOMEN TO BE LIBERATED:Please Read for this thread to continue..A forum done by the University of South California on Women Liberation concluded That ISLAM is the best bet for any woman to be liberated in the world.Before you disagree, please Read:
AN IDEAL MUSLIM WOMAN AND LIBERATION
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Originally posted by Faridah:As for the initial topic. WHY are you even debating about something Islam forbids?So far the best...
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http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/community/ /URL]
First,You will agree with me that Everyone got a culture, religion, beliefs and style in life.
AN EXAMPLE OF MARRIAGE INSTITUTION:
The society has in other words:
No control from Elders including parents relatives or religious people.
But afterall, YOU WILL DIE and still be answerable to your GOD.
MISCONCEPTION about Liberation
CONFUSION ABOUT ISLAM AND CULTURE OR HATE FOR ISLAM
BUT TALKING OF ARABS IS NOT TALKING ABOUT ISLAM/B]
and a host of other problems..and ISLAM came to save the women???
Finally does anyone has any other ways of liberating WOMEN...?
Liberated Women..Are you liberated????
in General
Posted
A must read for LIBERATED WOMEN
While everyone has the right to be "liberated"..I don't know from what..But it happens that a liberated woman Is taught to hate her own body. The form of her eyelashes and brows, the style of her walking and speech, the color of her lips, nails and cheek are all given an artificial look. She also hates the natural trend of her hair. In societies like western world, "hair fashion designers" and cosmetic manufacturers make big money.
A woman is expected to balance herself on a half a centimeter heel of shoes. This creates an abnormality called Lordosis in medical terminology. Males make big money, displaying female nakedness through their respectible trades like cabarets, strip bars, fashion shows, and especially commercial advertising (Do I want the Mustang or the sexy blonde in the advertisement?), nude paintings, magazines and now Internet web pages.
Modern urban culture does not only show the above but it also shows: Alarming statistics with manifold percentage increase, compared to past decades, of single parents, children with no fathers, broken families, sex crimes, divorce, suicide and drug use among teens, asylums for unclaimed children, homes for unwanted parents, clinics for delinquent youth and neurotic adults.
Recent estimates suggest that up to 80% of US society displays some form of psychological symptoms, and that up to 22% have psychological problems serious enough to interfere with their day to day living which are diagnosable (Chicago Tribune 12/1999).
Data in the United States also shows that 25 to 35 percent of girls are sexually abused, usually by men well known to them (Kilbourne 1999:253). A high percentage of women so assaulted suffer from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (the same disorder that a large number of Vietnam veterans suffer from) which leads to addiction and substance abuse and eventually to poverty and homelessness. Thus women in America live in a "war zone" in their own homes. If they survive childhood, their boyfriends or husbands eventually get them!
Some think they are liberated..
Check this..
are you one of them???????
