^^She always does, quran bey kuso akhirda, she is one of those who never studies, passes with flying colours and never looks stressed. Mashallah maskax iga dhe.

Errr you are complaning because more time ba lagu siiye? what mad lady :eek: Lily, I don't really have much choice about that in any case.

Ten people have been injured, including some with broken bones, when a flight from London to Los Angeles hit severe turbulence, officials said. Air passengers hurt in turbulence Enlarge photo United Airlines spokeswoman Sarah Massier said United Flight 935 reported severe turbulence over the Atlantic Ocean and was diverted to Montreal, Canada. The airline said nine passengers and one crew member were treated. None of the injuries are considered to be life-threatening. The Boeing 777 aircraft was taken out of service and inspected for possible damage. Ms Massier said another plane was sent from Chicago to Montreal to take the passengers and crew to Los Angeles. The plane landed in Los Angeles at around 10pm (0500 GMT), about nine hours later than originally scheduled. Some freaky things have been happening in the last few months and weeks, last week airindia crashed killing 109 passengers, before that the flight from Libya, before that Air France and so many others. This year is telling us we should not be messing with cirrka. I have few flights to take till the end of the year and I am feeling a little :eek: about them. subxanallah.

Manantaa aniga aya iskada ba waregiya and everyone wants a piece of me, what do I get?

Archdemos is this for Nomad radio?? miis another new one? Somali TV and radio is growing fast, hope they can break into the mainstream. Can you please do a show on media influence and creating news? You can cover issues like: How to engage with the media, what procedures are available for compliment and action when they make up stuff about our community (a hobby for local and tabloid), how we can create and influence what is reported about us, rather than always reacting to bad news. Filtering and making friends with new emerging journalist, writing on media blogs where perception and opinion polls are constructed. I think media engagement is key to creating a positive image about our community and we are so not even aware of it, we just moan to each other that there has been yet another article saying we stole and eat zebra from south London. :mad: That is my suggestion

Tuuji, already I am Xiiran ee maxa la shalen? I never wear watches or anything on my hands normally, makes my hand heavy and I forget it, too much effort taking it off everytime for wudu. Faheema, I like the peace and quite, tina said it is not in the car, so it must be with you somewhere.

Aaliya, your heart is set on something adiga, Allaho ha ku sahlo, aniga weeli SSC baad ii taba waada. Like seriously, Anigu SSC wax uuman diidin. I am glad you got that post about the MJ traders, but as you can see from the quote itself, I said to creat a hostage sitution so all parties have something to potential lose and therefore must talk; I never said attack and kill the traders. As for My Somaliland clan this and that, walali everyone answers for their crimes, anigu I have no say or influence over who kills or does not, so I don't take responsibilities for their actions (good or bad), same way I don't hold the current generation or kids of war lords responsible for their parents crimes. I am not Somaliland/secession, I'm in favour of 5 little mini states in place of mess that is Somalia. (Seriously, you put me in the same bag as Ducaale iyo JB??, those guys sometimes instead of saying Allahu Akbar to start salah, mistakenly say "Somaliland") I think we are going in circles because you refuse to stop being defensive, nevertheless I can understand why you are angry and can only focus everything about anything on that subject. Maybe when things calm down and SSC is not facing three dead-ends I will recommend you some reading (by none-Isaa*q, Somali and none-somali writers) about Somalia 1960-1990s. As for now may Allah make things easy for you and suffering Somalis. These boys are enjoying this far too much Bloody isku ***-***. Nuune I left the quotes out just for your easy read Boys get a life, when we disagree, it is normal discussion, idinku when you disagree you each start pretending you have an army or can ring the president of which ever corner you are fighting. You start saying things like, "You watch our SL/ PL/ Sharif/ Al Shababa will attack tomorrow while your cuuqdun sleeps and we will take over :rolleyes: I always wonder what the said poster does after writing this ?? watch a little TV, brush teeth and go to sleep, stay away for a few days, then come back and make more threats.

I don't feel lost without my phone, but I don't have sense of time without it. SalamAlikum akhyarata

^^^I think she did more harm to hereself then him, he got a free show as did 100 other men. I doubt she reacts like that to every guy who stares at her chest, she just wanted some air that day. :rolleyes: Juxa, the event is next week, there won't be any time fore promotion of tickets if we dont print them before this weekend. Baal see what u can do. I'm off too peeps, enjoy ur day

Originally posted by AfricaOwn: We need this "US vs Them" Ma ka daaba siidanu?? Those American and Canadians are everywhere (when I opened the thread I was expecting to see white peeps!)

Are they serious?? This must be some dacayad laka sameyeh! :eek:

^^^Why are you laughing about it. Ciil ayu uu diley ba la yidi. Speaking of crazy things, Somali guys beat up the Dahabshil guy and run off with empty suitcase, why they thought he would carry money in suitcases is beyond me :eek: Now that is daylight attempted robbery.

JB, that happened to a family member (it was his car, but he was not driving) three grown men fell off the back. Now they want us to pay for medical treatment for two and the blood money for the other. It makes no sense to me, but they say it is Somali culture. I refused to take part in the payment. Wa Accident caused by them jumping on when the thing was full :confused:

Originally posted by Safa: [QB] quote: Cuqdada iska saar Aaliya, I picked up on your comment because it caught my eye, I didn't read this guy aad iss hiisantan because madax igu xaanuna, he is always venting random things in most threads. If you want to argue with him that is your call, but anigu I don't fight with people who thinks they are part of ongoing conflicts in Somali soil while in the west. Ibtisaam, You don’t need to get angry, you started to comment on my post. I didn’t say anything about you, so you shouldn’t get very emotional and insult me personally. Yes we disagree on Somali politics, but we can agree to disagree with out insults and bad mouthing. The way you talking Ibtisaam, you are actually fighting in this forum. While you are in the west, so don’t be hypocrite and exclude yourself Runtii qofka cuqdada qaba waa adi adoo jooga west ayaa wali ka gubanasaa dagaalo dhacay in ka badan 20 sano ka hor Aaliya, I challenge you to FIND one post, that I ever made which told certain clans to fight or kill another. Go ahead, I will wait. You will never find me saying kill them or they deserve it, or punish them or where is there men. As for personally insulting you and yad yad ya, I did not, I told you to pick up a book and do some general reading, that is not an insult but a sound advice. As for ka gubanasaa dagaalo dhacay 20yrs ago, only when you try to re-write history while the first generation is still sitting. Otherwise I'm not fussed about it. that includes you and your "we have men to fight back" Daadkan aad isku tirsdid will end up losing their life, and it won't cost you nothing, so I guess it is easy for you to advocate for war Was the snm men you support not losing lives in 1988 and now while they are fighting the ssc?? I am getting tired of telling you this, read a book, there is no such thing as SNM now, if like Duke you are using it as a clan name now? In any case anigu I did not have a say when the SNM formed, and I dont support any sort of fighting, let alone on the only semi peaceful region. Are you not now angry and saying that people in somaliland were being abused in the 80s, justifying the snm men and their war with the Somali government? Are you not supporting the 88 war?? Mise shekadu wa marba say kugu baxdo… How do you compare history (wax dacey already a long time ago, which I have an opinion on) Which btw don't put words in my mouth, I said Somali people were being abused (scroll up) and there were other organistions which sprung with the SNM (miis you are not aware of them?) As for your other comment, without going into details about Somalia, walahi you sound ignorant and worse belittling the suffering of so many somalis (and before you say so, these people I speak of were not Isa*aq nor my relatives, but they were Somali) The Somali government was systematic in its abuse, maybe your family were fine, maybe you had access to education, health iyo waxad sheegety, but the majority of Somalis did not and on top of that were oppressed. Baal adigu pick up a book, any book on Somalia and do some general reading about when the Somali government started falling part. The SNM and other similar organisations just kicked a hollow ship over. First of all stop calling me names “ignorant” and the like and learn to share your view without name calling. Secondly, I did not belittle the suffering of any Somalis. Read my post again without preconceived notion abt where I stand in the current political issues. I said 1981 Somalia was established. I did not say anything abt the war that took place in 1988. And, everyone knows how Somalia was in the early 80s and how established it was, that is a fact. Okay, BUT I am telling you that Somalia as a government failed long before 1988, adiga 1988 bey kaga deegtey? And, now incase you are not aware of maybe your families are safe and sound in burco. There are innocent people who had no role in the Somali political chaos being killed in SSC regions by Somaliland government. That is true, hence why you don't see me forming an opinion other than SCC need to determine their own future. I don't have a role in either one, so to be honest you are preaching to the wrong person. No one cares what I think, nor do I live in SL/ Somalia, so I don't have to make a choice. ------ If you don't think that you have to make a choice then why are you choosing pits and pieces from my posts. Or, do you think you have a choice when it comes to certain topics and disregard others?? does it all boil down to your political stand?? I picked up on your comment about Somalia history, nothing to do with SSC, I asked you if it was not too early to re-write history. That is the only thing I asked you about, the rest adiga aya ii daaba waada. I think you are confused, I did not advocate for anyone to attack or invade budhoodle, and like abroken record you keep repeating SL ma raabno to me, to which I keep telling I don't care. I asked a rhetorical and valid question to the SL supporters. As for the current news, unless you have some inside story, I read that there were separate attacks, one with SL troops and the other with Ethio troops. As I said I was concerned about Ethiopians randomly attacking women and children (i saw a video of them chasing women which caused a stampede) and I asked why the two states which fight over them did not support them. If you disagree with me you don’t have to call me confused or broken record? Or do you have the tendency to use bad words?? Plus if you don’t care about my repeated words of “SL ma rabno” who asked you to comment on my post?? Or do you think I give abt your repeated lines of “oh hargaisa burco don’t want to be part of Somalia”. I don’t care either. Again you have me confused, search the threads, I have always said the same thing, ciidna yaan la qasbiin, and as for bad words, walalo I think you are taking things a little seriously (Borken record= repeating same thing over and over again regardless of the context) I don't see as bad words, but if you are offended by it xaal qaado, it is just an expression used because I aske dyou about something and you keep repeating something else. As for Burco and Harigas, there is record of me HERE of me saying Burco can be pro-somalia when they want; don't say things just to make sense of your "argument" Read what you wrote? And you did advocate invading buhodle by Sl ? when you wrote: Why would you not defend against the Ethiopian aggression? Exactly how will the very group (SL) that brought Ethiopian aggression in buhodle defend buhodle. Doesn’t make sense. Lol @ you read that above and took away from it, that I said invade Buhoodle, read again sis and do so without assuming. I said defend against aggression, how canone defend aggression by invading the people it is suppose to defend? In your haste to agree with a none existent point, A&T has led you to a dead end, again if you read Somali history you would know that Siyaad was not securing borders, he was stamping resistance out. ----- You might disagree but Siyaad barre was securing borders and defending the territory of Somali Republic. are you serious?? Would it not then make sense he attacked NFD Kenya and Ethios region? lool walahi this made me laugh! (Diinac loo raco maleh, they let themselves down, disunity means maraba ciid bad dinca lagu jiidan. United they could make their own, iis jiid jiidna ma jirina, that is all I got to say. But like all poor place, support is brought and sold.) Are you talking about Northwest region in 1988, when most of the current Somaliland politicians were part of President Siyad Barre Government like Riyaale, Cigaal, etc You are right ibti support is bought and Sold. Not a new thing. There we go again, 1988 beye kaga deegtey. As you were AAliya, anigu waxan ku leeahey do some reading and becareful what you wish for; people who wish for war and distruction of Daadka maskiinta aah need to check themselve. Don't worry, I am not picking on you, it includes most of the guys on here who think they are in ths SL army, sharif army, PL army or another army. :cool:

W/'salam: You cannot blame them if you are above average height! If you manage to sue them via Juxa, I would also sue for making me stand under ridiculously tall person armpits, I mean could they not put all the freaks in one carriage (all the tall and midgets) and leave a carriage for normal height people. Also a carriage for obese people and men with broader shoulders, who think because you keep moving away they can space out even more another one for smelly people and no more for perverted people who think rush hour is excuse to rub up on people and breath down their neck. I like my rout into work, empty enough to always get a seat, but lord it is slow! Let me know if you get Juxa to sue and re-arrange these things @ real food, you mean hilib iyo barris?? it is not all girls, (they don't eat at all) we are special case (Faheema, Juxa, Cara) they eat so much cake they do *shakes head I mean seriously. Jb did you find out if my tuulo has rain?

Forgot the cake in the fridge too, now I am sitting here thinking tomorrow I will remember to bring coffee and cake. But I order cake, it will arrive at 2pm inshallah.

Malika, 3days :eek: :eek: Faheema, would you believe I have coffee mix at home since sunday but yet to open it, I only remember when I am at work SalamAlikum all. Howdy Zu, feeling a bit lonely are u?

Originally posted by Safa: [QB] quote: Posted by Ibtisam: Aliya are you serious?? Ma ka daba siidano (Put aside whatever debate you are having with the other dude, I support people to make their own choice) But what I am picking up on is what you said above in the quote. Is it not too soon to re-write history? or have you not done any reading on Somalia 1975-1990s? I would be interested to read how you came to the conclusion that people in Somalia, especially in the North, had everything. It is funny how you chose to pick only my comments. And, chose to not address sacad ducale’s comments and his hatred comments to the people of SSC, to an extent he calls them Kashmir and advocated for it to be burned. But, my comment was exactly reflecting the truth that was taking place at the time. There was a government, good education and good health care system. There was also peace from south to north at the time when snm was created at 1981 compare to today where there is tribal civil war both in North and south Somalia. Cuqdada iska saar Aaliya, I picked up on your comment because it caught my eye, I didn't read this guy aad iss hiisantan because madax igu xaanuna, he is always venting random things in most threads. If you want to argue with him that is your call, but anigu I don't fight with people who thinks they are part of ongoing conflicts in Somali soil while in the west. (that includes you and your "we have men to fight back" Daadkan aad isku tirsdid will end up losing their life, and it won't cost you nothing, so I guess it is easy for you to advocate for war) As for your other comment, without going into details about Somalia, walahi you sound ignorant and worse belittling the suffering of so many somalis (and before you say so, these people I speak of were not Isa*aq nor my relatives, but they were Somali) The Somali government was systematic in its abuse, maybe your family were fine, maybe you had access to education, health iyo waxad sheegety, but the majority of Somalis did not and on top of that were oppressed. Baal adigu pick up a book, any book on Somalia and do some general reading about when the Somali government started falling part. The SNM and other similar organisations just kicked a hollow ship over. At the end of the day you said you respect the choice of the people. People of the SSC want nothing to do with Somaliland just like Somaliland wants to do nothing with Somalia. I don't have a role in either one, so to be honest you are preaching to the wrong person. No one cares what I think, nor do I live in SL/ Somalia, so I don't have to make a choice. Posted by ibtisam: To the Somaliland supporters: IS the Buuhodle attack by the Ethiopians an invasion of your "border" and national security/ interest. Why would you not defend against the Ethiopian aggression? Ethiopia and Somaliland jointly attacked Buuhodle/widhwidh at the same time if you were following the news. People of buuhodle want nothing to do with Somaliland so why are you advocating for Somaliland to invade buhodle on the name of defending imaginary border. Now you dont want somali government to come to Hargaisa and burco in the name of defending the Somali borders. I think you are confused, I did not advocate for anyone to attack or invade budhoodle, and like abroken record you keep repeating SL ma raabno to me, to which I keep telling I don't care. I asked a rhetorical and valid question to the SL supporters. As for the current news, unless you have some inside story, I read that there were separate attacks, one with SL troops and the other with Ethio troops. As I said I was concerned about Ethiopians randomly attacking women and children (i saw a video of them chasing women which caused a stampede) and I asked why the two states which fight over them did not support them. Posted by A& T Aaliya is right, there was a government in Somalia when SNM started fighting. Sure, there were oppression against SNM clan as well. Like it is now. There is a government in Somaliland, but the government there doesn't want to allow the SSC people to choose what they want, which is a dawlad goboleed named SSC. So, when Somaliland army attacks Buuhoodle or Las-Anod, the argument it makes about keeping borders is the same as the old one used by Jaalle Siyaad. A& T my sentiment exactly. Unfortunately, Somalilanders don’t want to see that...way isla qumanyihiin..aduun. In your haste to agree with a none existent point, A&T has led you to a dead end, again if you read Somali history you would know that Siyaad was not securing borders, he was stamping resistance out. Diinac loo raco maleh, they let themselves down, disunity means maraba ciid bad dinca lagu jiidan. United they could make their own, iis jiid jiidna ma jirina, that is all I got to say. But like all poor place, support is brought and sold.

Loool @ Got excited about new country, aadi xasiid haa nooqon women, tell her they look like us, talk differently and have more accidents Lord knows I did not do it for Kibir iyo kas, I just missed it.

Originally posted by Oodweyne: quote: Originally Posted By Ms. Ibtisam , I don't know how you can claim a place, boast about taking over it in the future but when something like this happens throwing it to the other party you was trying to win from. It makes no logical sense but wa Somalis I expect such madness to make sense to only them. Dear Ms. Ibti , It may not make a much of a "logical sense" ( or at least a certain version of Cartesian logic ) to you; but it most certainly makes an immanent "political sense" , indeed.... In other words, the "sub-text" of the argument that Somaliland will be making, or at least the conclusion that one can draw in the "absence" of our vocal protest against such a thing happening in Buuhoodle at the hand of Ethiopia, which will leave no one in any doubt as to what we mean is that we in "effect" are saying to the folks of that area that since "Pirate-land" has proven to be incapable of "protecting" them; and since their "border vulnerability" is here to stay in the absence of a strong jurisdictional oversight at their behest, then, perhaps, they were wrong to reject Somaliland's sovereignty, in the first place. Since, in the absence of that sort of "legal protection" over them, then, it's likely that Ethiopia will be continuing in it's present harassment of them, indeed…. So you see, my dearest , it makes, at least within the context of a "dog-eat-dog-world-of-the-Somali-politics" , a very much of a "political sense" , indeed.... Regards, Oodweyne. Oodweyne; Already meesha I watched you suffer and stood by baa dacdey a long time ago, this is not very good way to heal wounds. In any case, your argument will be valid IF and A big IF, Somaliland once controlled that area and put Ethios in their place, and then they kicked out SL, PL came and Ethios abused them, but this is NOT the case. There is no proof that SL can or is willing to protect them. In fact since these kind of run ins with the Ethios happen quite often, and considering Riyaal is friends with the Ethios, it is not likely that as you argue that they will be safe. Border vulnerability exists in Hawd (SL) as you may already know, as soon as la daafo Haye Yarre, you see Ethiopians walking about. Maybe if Somaliland was recognized by Ethiopia, again your argument would be a valid one.

Juxa, looool HAHAHa, it is about time they heard about it. I tried to edit it out of all the proposals but I must have missed some. C&H it is for the charity, all the source of my hadax xuun these weeks wa from that.

One event is too expensive for some people and small capacity, so we thought we'd throw in another event for free. think of it as a nice suprise

Originally posted by Abtigiis & Tusbax: quote:Originally posted by *Ibtisam: Somaliland makes up 30% of the whole of Somalia, I know the argument you made there was not to state how big Somaliland population is. Infact, it was about making the point that SL should not be seen as the biggest issue in the demise of Somalia as it only represents 30% or less of the people of Somalia. I agree with the argument. But I felt there is a factual error I need to correct incase the men and women who come from Dhulkii has given you an inflated view of the SL population. The Somaliland-clan (and here I mean the only clan which heartily pushes for the SL agenda) is a a sub-clan of one of the four major clans of Somalia. Hence, in the 4.5 calculation, they do not get even 1. They share the 1. In what is geographically called Somaliland (former British Somaliland), there are various clans: the SSC (inculding the docile clan from which Hunguri comes from) , the Awdalites, and the major Gabooye clan who populate large swathes of the Hargeisa-Burco-Berbera Triangle. So, when we talk about SL, we should make it clear whether we are talking about the geography or the people who live in there. A&T I'm nothing but plain speaking, waxaba ha warwargin, I spoke of somaliland as a whole; You want to make it an reer shike isxaaq Vs everyone else, that is how advocates of ethnic cleansing start their arguments. And I'm not really interested in the if, iyo buts. I don't know how whatever points you think you are making is related to anything I asked AAliya?? I asked her about a statemen she made about the PAST, you are insistant to telling me about when dooms day arrives for shikes family. :confused: In anycase as you were. Scad* Inadheer caqli allah ha ku siyaadiyo. I don't know how you can claim a place, boast about taking over it in the future but when something like this happens throwing it to the other party you was trying to win from. It makes no logical sense but wa Somalis I expect such madness to make sense to only them.

^^Not you Juxa, adiga waan kugu so duuley. I want more than that wayo rich baa tihin. Nuune okay. Ngonge, lol I can't TELL them how much to give me and how. i can only make a suggestion and what they will get!

I'm okay alhumdulilah. I just feel on edge, emtional kursiga ayan ka dacay. One of those days, this company is teasing me, asking me is £1500 too much, how about less, what about day one, or event two, can we do a speech, how about leafleting, can we come to all the events, but we don't have people, can you give things out on our behalf. I just feel like saying errrrrrrrg just give or come or something. New company, they are asking me if people attending normally use translators or interpreting, business or normally people, is it worth it for them. I don't want to lie :eek: but I want them to pay.