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  1. warsamaale;968376 wrote:
    According to German Finance Minister Schaeuble. When will turkey stop embarrassing itself trying to enter a white christian club.
    so the question is, do you guys think is part of turkey or not ??

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  2. Nice so the money started rolling in for the oppsition even before Morsi took office. I wonder how many "democratic rules" he broke before he was swore in.

    Exclusive:
    US bankrolled anti-Morsi activists

    Documents reveal US money trail to Egyptian groups that pressed for president's removal

    Berkeley, United States - President Barack Obama recently stated the United States was not taking sides as Egypt's crisis came to a head with the military overthrow of the democratically elected president.

     

    But a review of dozens of US federal government documents shows Washington has quietly funded senior Egyptian opposition figures who called for toppling of the country's now-deposed president Mohamed Morsi.

     

    Documents obtained by the Investigative Reporting Program at UC Berkeley show the US channeled funding through a State Department programme to promote democracy in the Middle East region. This programme vigorously supported activists and politicians who have fomented unrest in Egypt, after autocratic president Hosni Mubarak was ousted in a popular uprising in February 2011.

     

    The State Department's programme, dubbed by US officials as a "democracy assistance" initiative, is part of a wider Obama administration effort to try to stop the retreat of pro-Washington secularists, and to win back influence in Arab Spring countries that saw the rise of Islamists, who largely oppose US interests in the Middle East.

     

     

    Activists bankrolled by the programme include an exiled Egyptian police officer who plotted the violent overthrow of the Morsi government, an anti-Islamist politician who advocated closing mosques and dragging preachers out by force, as well as a coterie of opposition politicians who pushed for the ouster of the country's first democratically elected leader, government documents show.

     

    Information obtained under the Freedom of Information Act, interviews, and public records reveal Washington's "democracy assistance" may have violated Egyptian law, which prohibits foreign political funding.

     

    It may also have broken US government regulations that ban the use of taxpayers' money to fund foreign politicians, or finance subversive activities that target democratically elected governments.

     

    'Bureau for Democracy'

     

    Washington's democracy assistance programme for the Middle East is filtered through a pyramid of agencies within the State Department. Hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars is channeled through the Bureau for Democracy, Human Rights and Labor (DRL), The Middle East Partnership Initiative (MEPI), USAID, as well as the Washington-based, quasi-governmental organisation the National Endowment for Democracy (NED).

     

    In turn, those groups re-route money to other organisations such as the International Republican Institute, the National Democratic Institute (NDI), and Freedom House, among others. Federal documents show these groups have sent funds to certain organisations in Egypt, mostly run by senior members of anti-Morsi political parties who double as NGO activists.

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  3. DoctorKenney;967872 wrote:
    What kind of irrational argument is this? You're arguing whether I should be happy if the government imposed a special tax on me because I'm a Muslim? Is that you determine whether the law is effective or just....just by whether someone is "happy" about the application of the law? If the American Congress decides to raise income taxes by 5%, sure I won't be happy about it....but is that how you determine whether a law is just?

     

    Stop with these Mickey Mouse arguments. They make no sense. Under Shariah, Muslims have to pay this special tax on their income called a "Zakat". Have you heard of Zakat? Do you know what it is?

     

    Are you actually insisting that Muslims are forced to pay a tax (which is what Zakat essentially is, it's a tax) but the Christians/Jews should be exempt from paying any taxes, despite the fact that they're citizens of the State and share in the rights of responsibilities of everyone else?

     

    How dare you call these double standards fair? I fully support the application of the Jizyah tax.

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  4. Carafaat;967703 wrote:
    If Mursi believed in socialist, liberal, gay marriage or other anti-muslim ideologies he would not have been overthrown.

    But because Islam is his ideology, he was opposed by anti-muslims or secularist as I call them.

    Exactly this has nothing to do with democracy, this is purely anti-Islamic agenda. And these dictators("Kings") in Saudi Arabia and Qatar pouring in billions of dollars of support for the Egyptian military are doing so because they fear Islam coming to power. Because if Islam comes to power then their own people will revolt against them and demand it as well.


  5. warsamaale;967454 wrote:
    MB throwing people out of buildings, thank god the military dealt with these psychos in time, they were getting more secure.

    ‎Look whose been caught: The man who was throwing the pro-morsi supporters from the rooftops so that the blame would go on the Islamists. The things people do for money

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  6. Massacre in Cairo

    At least 42 dead after gunmen open fire at Muslim Brotherhood protest against military coup in Egyptian capital.

     

    A deadly shooting at the site of a sit-in by Muslim Brotherhood supporters in Cairo, demanding the reinstatement of ousted President Mohamed Morsi, has left dozens of people dead.

     

    The Egyptian health ministry said at least 42 people had been killed and more than 300 injured in the incident early on Monday morning.

     

    Egypt's interim administration has expressed "deep regret" for those killed in violence in Cairo on Monday, it said in a statement carried on the state news agency.

     

    The transitional administration also said it had formed a judicial committee to investigate the events. The statement called on protesters not to approach any military or "other vital installations".

     

    Mohamed Mohamed Ibrahim El-Beltagy, a Brotherhood MP, described the incident during dawn prayers after police had stormed the site, as a "massacre".

     

    About 500 people were also reportedly injured.

     

    A doctor told Al Jazeera that "the majority of injured had gunshot wounds to the head".

     

    The Brotherhood said the dead and the injured have been taken to a makeshift hospital in the the Nasr City neighbourhood.

     

    Speaking to Al Jazeera, Gehad Haddad, a spokesman for Muslim Brotherhood, said that at around 3.30 in the morning, army and police forces started firing at sit-in protesters in front of the Republican Guard headquarters in Cairo.

    Inna Lillahi Wa Inna Ilaihi rajicuun


  7. Apophis;966937 wrote:
    You're an irrational hypocrite sxb, like all liberals. If 51.7% of Egyptian people voted for an Islamic party then democratic principles dictate that such a party holds mandate and should rule accordingly. They should govern the country according to their manifesto. If 51.7% of Egyptians voted for a liberal party you wouldn't be here disparaging them and supporting such party to be overthrown. This is why you, and anyone who supports this takeover, is an irrational hypocrite.

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    Crowds across the U.S. gathered Thursday to protest the federal government’s surveillance of the American public – recently highlighted by leaker Edward Snowden – as part of pro-Forth Amendment rallies, chanting “NSA go away!”

     

    Protests were also scheduled in 100 other cities, according to the organizers, “Restore the Fourth,” who describe themselves as a grassroots, non-partisan movement.


  9. Tillamook;966863 wrote:
    I've always disliked the MB because of their name...in fact, they should ban them again until they change the name of their political movement. If they claim to be Muslims, marka yaa gaala ah? No one party should have a monopolistic use of the word Islam or Muslim!

     

    Also, it might help to broaden your base of supporters, because even if half the country voted for them, they other half were against them, and that's just too many people.

    What's your point? Obama and Bush had an even less percentage to win their elections, does that make them illegitmate as well??

    Ofcourse the rules don't apply only when it comes to Muslims.


  10. Khadafi;966858 wrote:
    haye, and what about GURYAHA XOG LAGU HAYSTO?. Let's face it before the civil war 1991 Somalis from all parts of Somalia owned houses in Mogadishu, and now we have someone talking about renting a house?

     

    A priority for the government should be to establish a commission that deals with these things.

    You have to negotiate with money, most of these people will accept if you persuade them with lacag.


  11. Abdul;966844 wrote:
    Just wait for violent protests from supporters of MB.Things will get ugly soon.

    Civil war is already pretty much guaranteed. Here are events so far;

     

    1- A new interim President, Adly Mohamoud Mansour, has been sworn into office this afternoon.

     

    2- President Mursi has been placed on palace arrest and the Presidential guards have refused to surrender him. He was given an today an ultimatum, either tell the crowds to go home or be put in prison. He said he preferred prison rather than giveup the trust.

     

    3- There is a wide division in between the Egyptian army some of which have officially joined the pro-Mursi camp. A good indicator for Mursi.

     

    4- The corrupt army general Al-Sisi is using force against protestors and death/injury toll rising.

     

    5- They have imprisoned Islamic figures/scholars by the hundreds.

     

    6- An Islamic army has risen from the land of Sina vigorously denouncing the coup and have vouched to fight in support of Mursi.

     

    7- Violent clashes have taken place in many cities by the Army's and anti-Mursi protestors use of violence.

     

    8- It has been reported that the Sa'ayda people made up of Arab tribes are standing up for Mursi. They are known to be people with weapons and strong power in Egypt. If they order their children out of the army, it could end up removing thousands from Sisi's thugs.

     

    9- The Arab states who congratulated the new interim President are Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Kuwait, Jordan, etc. The countries who denounced the coup are Turkey and Germany amongst others.

     

    10- Saudi and UAE have funded the coup and have promised Sisi to fund the future economic development. They refused to fund Mursi during his time in office.

     

    11- Tomorrow's rallies could be the worst. They are now cheering that tomorrow will be the day the put back Mursi officially.

     

    12- It is clear that everyone who stood on the panel with Al-Sisi when he announced the coup betrayed Egypt. The harshest of them came from the Salafist group Hiz Al-Noor who sold out Islam. It is said that they joined the plot against Mursi starting months ago.

     

    13- Egypt is on the brinks of a serious civil war because the people refuse to go home until Mursi is back as President. They will not negotiate with the army and will take it by force if it has to be.