no brother what i am saying is that if that speach was not given their would be war to day it's like this if u do not scare a animal away it will not leave u alone same thing with somaliland

US Troops 'On Kenya-Somali Border Watch' - Friday, August 20, 2004 at 22:46 The Nation (Nairobi) August 19, 2004 Kevin J Kelley New York - American troops are helping their Kenyan counterparts to patrol the Somalia border, the commander of its task force in the Horn has said. The revelation came during an Associated Press interview with Brig-Gen Samuel Helland, the head of a 2,000-strong US anti-terrorism force that has been in Djibouti for the past two years. The patrols involve an unspecified number of US and Kenyan troops, and appear to be intended to help to prevent terrorists from crossing into Kenya. But when contacted, an officer at Kenya's Department of Defence said the country had not signed any pact with the US for joint operations. It had signed only a memorandum of understanding to exchange views on combating terrorism. He admitted that the US military, jointly with that of Kenya, was holding the joint operation, which he termed "hunting for criminals" across the Somalia border, after the bombing of Paradise Hotel at Kikambala, in Mombasa's north coast, in November 2002. But the US embassy in Nairobi said the exercise involved the Kenyan navy and that of the US for training purposes only. Brig-Gen Helland, however, told AP that while the Djibouti-based US task force had not helped to foil specific terrorist strikes, its work with the local forces had prevented attacks. "I think the terrorist organisations that were in the Horn of Africa are still here," he said in an August 17 AP dispatch from Nairobi. "The war against terrorism takes a long time." In addition to conducting patrols and training increasing numbers of forces in Kenya and other Horn countries, the US task force provides aid to local civilians, he added. That helps improve America's reputation in the area, while building support for the local government. Brig-Gen Helland's comments were made on the same day US officials in Washington were briefing reporters on plans for a global repositioning of American troops. And the Horn task force's activities appear consistent with the Bush administration's reported intentions regarding a US military presence in the sub-Saharan region. Powered by AllPuntland.com Copyright ©AllPuntland.com

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U.S. must develop a Somalia strategy - Thursday, August 19, 2004 at 14:57 RUSS FEINGOLD Last month, the Bush administration missed its congressional deadline to produce a report on U.S. policy in Somalia. This failure is disappointing, baffling — and dangerous. I applaud the administration's East African Counter-Terrorism Initiative, which recognizes that there are real threats in Somalia. We know that al-Qaida has used Somalia as a safe haven and training ground. We know that some of the more troubling actors on the international scene are sometimes the only ones involved in providing basic services to people in parts of Somalia — such that parents there can send children to an extremist school or to no school at all. But the East African Counter-Terrorism Initiative only focuses on the states around Somalia, not on Somalia itself. Shouldn't the United States get in the game, work toward order and stability, and compete for these hearts and minds? Shouldn't we have a policy toward Somalia? I raised this issue at a hearing I chaired in early 2002, and confirmed my fear that we have no real strategy. I have asked about it since at hearings and in meetings. There have been no real answers. For two years in a row, the Senate Foreign Relations Committee has approved legislation containing a provision that I authored calling for a Somalia strategy, but no such strategy has been shared with us. I worked with congressional appropriators to ensure that they called for a report — due July 23 — on our strategy in Somalia when they passed last year's foreign operations appropriations bill. My concern is not simply about the administration missing the deadline. It is about the fact that the United States has been failing to address this issue for years, even after the horrifying wake-up call of Sept. 11. This is all the more disappointing as the failure to produce a viable strategy for U.S. policy in Somalia comes just as the 9/11 Commission's report has underscored the importance of doing just that. The 9/11 Commission report documents al-Qaida's history in Somalia and goes on to explicitly identify Somalia as one of a handful of places where experts believe terrorists are most likely to find sanctuary and base their operations. The commission's recommendation is clear: "The U.S. govt. must identify and prioritize actual or potential terrorist sanctuaries. For each, it should have a realistic strategy to keep possible terrorists insecure and on the run, using all elements of national power." Somalia is perhaps the world's most apt example of a failed state. Our strategy toward Somalia cannot be limited to batting down immediate threats — it should also be about preventing more threats from emerging by helping to bring lasting stability to this highly unstable place. That entails building solid relationships, gaining access to solid information and giving Somali parents and youth a reason to feel some hope for their future. We should develop policies today with the aim of ensuring that our children will not face threats from the Horn of Africa in the years to come. We must, as the 9/11 Commission advised, prevent the continued growth of terrorism. I am told that perhaps a Somalia report will be produced and delivered to Congress over the next few months. I hope so. We cannot continue to bury our heads in the sand; we cannot continue to operate without any real foreign policy when it comes to this strategically located country that is home to millions of Muslims coping with insecurity and deprivation every day. It is not easy to develop a strategy for engaging Somalis and working to create a future in which Somalia is not a source of chaos or an attractive haven for terrorists. It is not easy, but it is necessary. allpuntland.com

Brother with all due respect, we all know that is not the reason. Let’s get real here, if we speak of crimes committed here, at the very least Cabdiqaasim(assuming we accept that being part of the previous government is a sin) was not/is not an Ethiopian lackeys- can't say the same for Caddow, he too is a traitor in my books. Most of these sad cases who’ve presented themselves as our future leaders have the blood of many innocent people on their hands, but to be an enemy puppet is the lowest of scum and sorry to say but mister CY falls into this even more tragic category. I can say with almost 100% certainty, even if Cabdiqaasim and Caddow had not been part of the previous government and had not Cabdiqaasim tried beforehand you would of have still favoured CY over them. At the end of the day folks, know that when anyone supports a warlord (be he CY, Caydiid, Yalaxow, Jess etc) they do so simply because of tribal interests (the one who serves their interests best) and not the collective interests of all Somalis irrespective of tribal identity. It is for this reason that certain individuals would of have supported CY instead of Mr. Jama (the overthrown leader of Puntland) when the coup took place even though Mr. Jama was the lawful leader. This fine line is also evident in various other discussions; another example which comes to mind on SOL is when the issue of Somaliland comes up. You can differentiate between who supports Somaliland for the obvious positives it has and who is giving support for nothing more than tribal orientations.You can also differentiate between who opposes because of viable reasons and who opposes because of their tribalistic notions. That is what it comes down to. I just wish that they would stop hiding behind this façade of trying to reason when in actuality any thinking individual can see what is happening here. Honestly, this is nothing more than intellectual abuse; they are insulting our intelligence here! -------------------- Say: "Truly, my prayer and my service of sacrifice, my life and my death, are (all) for Allah, the Cherisher of the Worlds" Posts: 483 | From: Melbourne, Australia | Registered: Dec 2001 | Identity: Logged Waryaa Dude Nomad Member: 4635 posted August 20, 2004 09:56 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rahima, you call C/Y an Ethiopian lackey, but then why doesn't he hand over ONLF freedom fighters to Addis Ababa like the Somaliland snitches do. He even has a good relationship with the ONLF and the relationship between Garowe and Addis Ababa is limited to military support wich originates from the SSDF times. So he doesn't particularly qualify for being a lackey for Ethiopia, especially since he is not scared of criticising Ethiopia and get jailed for 6 years too. So gimme a break! Second, Cabdiqaasim and Caddow are the reason of the word lackey. They were the lackeys of Siyaad Barre while C/Y has openly declared war on Siyaad Barre. Being overly happy with a minister position while Somalis were butchered by the same regime. And by this I might add that Caddow is more innocent then Cabdiqaasim since Cabdiqaasim was the minister of interior who succeeded the notourious Gen. Axmed Saleebaan Dafle when for instance the Somalilanders were massacred like flies. But Caddow made his hands dirty when he was a member of the USC committee responsible of the massacre of innocent civilians in Mogadishu and Kismaayo of C/Y and Siyaad Barre's tribe. Not only is Cabdiqaasim a former Siyaad Barre buttkisser, but also a lackey for the Arab countries. If it's up to him, he will even ban Somali as a first language and welcome Arab govermental organisations to give Aid in exchange for replacng our Somali culture with an Arab one.

sorry it's not from my understanding it's from the understanding of every somalia person that really understand him because most somalia people do not know what or who a leader is all they know is that the men with the gun and money is the leader and that's not what a leader is a leader is some one who first become a leader for his people and then his country and that what Abdulah is doing puntland and then somalia

http://www.hiiraan.com/2004/july/galeyr.htm people like this men are the people that are destorying somalia woow this men left from the united states just to mass up the peac talk's in kenya but to weak to do so he goes around talking to the somalia people and telling them lie's big fat once and it really sad just because he is not going to became the so called president he was ex vi president and he could not do that so to bad some one needs to tell the docter to go back to the united states because he is not doing somalia any good.

brother's and sister as we all know today about our homeland and the way it is the only way to put somalia on it's feet again is to have not a good leader but a great one and from my understanting abdulah yusef is the men we need in the somalia office. Ps: a leader has a history of leadership and this men has that and more. www.bbc.co.uk/.../somalia terrorists.shtml