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    ^^ Now you know why I've been following Spurs all along. They're hanging on our coattailes and may even snatch fourth away from us (I don't think City will do it, even though all they need is ONE win).

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    ^^ My second post was not from a newspaper waliba (it was from wisaarada arimaha dibada of Kuwait). :D

    Xiin began with Siilaanyo representing the union then moved on to arguing that he was a private citizen and now he elevated him to the position of the leader of a Somali region. Xaajigo ilaa barigee oo karavaankiisa xuma ka banjaray cidlaada ayuu iska joogay oo "The End Is Nigh" ayuu iska laha. Adeer naga daa yaanu ka sii darin.

     

    p.s.

    My SSC Predicamant thread is coming true with every passing day.

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    Back to African roots

     

    Popular diplomacy managed to close gaps in Egypt's relationship with Ethiopia over the Nile, reports Doaa El-Bey

     

    In its visit to the Ethiopian capital Addis Ababa, a 48- member delegation succeeded in thawing frozen Egyptian-Ethiopian relations and avoiding a conflict over the Nile water that could have had drastic effects on both countries.

     

    "The visit was a success. We succeeded in what official diplomacy failed in," said Mustafa El-Guindi, the head and general coordinator of the delegation. "Popular diplomacy managed to discuss and resolve an issue that is important to the people's lives and security."

    The visit delivered a message to the Ethiopian government that Egypt welcomes any progress in Ethiopia provided it does not affect Egypt's water quota, said Mohamed Abul-Ghar, a professor of gynaecology and obstetrics at Cairo University and one of the delegation members. "We postponed the ratification of the agreement in addition to getting some information about the dam to be built," he added.

     

    At the end of the four-day visit, Ethiopian Prime Minister Meles Zenawi announced that his country would postpone signing the Nile Basin agreement until Egypt elects a new parliament and president. He also agreed to form a committee of Ethiopian, Egyptian and Sudanese experts to look into the Millennium Dam project.

     

    "It was such an emotional moment when Zenawi declared the postponement. Many members of the delegations cried," El-Guindi told Al-Ahram Weekly after his return.

     

    Although Zenawi repeatedly expressed his belief that the dam would not be of any harm to Egypt and other neighbouring countries, he agreed to wait until the project is further examined by a committee in which both Egypt and Sudan are represented. The 180-degree change in the Ethiopian stand, El-Guindi explained, indicated that they had decided to open a new page of cooperation with Cairo.

     

    In order to reach that end, both sides tried to stress points of agreement and possible cooperation in the future in the interest of both states. The delegation members repeated that Ethiopia is entitled to a fair share of the Nile. They also expressed their belief that Ethiopia would not act in a manner that harms the Egyptian people whose livelihood is dependent on Nile waters. Members of the youth coalition who were represented in the delegation said that the majority of the youths who participated in the revolution which overthrew Hosni Mubarak support Ethiopia's right to develop and exploit the river. Ethiopian officials expressed their understanding that the Nile is the basis of the lives of Egyptians and is essential to Egypt's development. Both sides appeared to agree on the importance of finding new dimensions for cooperation on the use of the Nile.

    The delegation met several Ethiopian officials, including Zenawi, Foreign Affairs Minister Hailemariam Desalegn and religious leaders. It also met President Girma Woldegiorgis, Abadula Gemeda, spokesperson of the House of Peoples' representatives and Kassa Tekleberhan, spokesperson of the House of Federation.

     

    The delegation comprised three presidential candidates, representatives from various political parties and movements, independent politicians, previous members of parliament, journalists, public figures and representatives from youth groups that launched the 25 January Revolution.

     

    The disparity of the delegation members helped the negotiations to a great extent. "Politicians helped when we met with officials, university professors helped in our visit to the university and the youths gave the delegation a special flavour," Abul-Ghar said.

     

    "The popular facet of the delegation was shown during our visit to the cathedral when members of the delegation chanted with Ethiopian worshippers after the mass: "Egypt and Ethiopia, one hand," Abul-Ghar elaborated.

     

    The delegation, which concluded its visit on Monday, was named the "Egyptian People's Diplomatic Delegation". The warm welcome in Addis Ababa indicated a governmental will to improve relations, according to Abul-Ghar.

     

    The visit came after Prime Minister Essam Sharaf met Ethiopia's ambassador to Egypt, during which both sides emphasised their willingness to turn a new page and resolve the Nile Basin saga. Sharaf is also scheduled to visit Ethiopia by the end of next week to hold further discussions on the issue with Ethiopian officials.

     

    Tension erupted between Egypt and Sudan on the one hand and Ethiopia and the other Nile Basin states on the other when they failed to reach an agreement on the fair distribution of Nile waters. Failure to reach an agreement prompted Ethiopia, along with Uganda, Tanzania, Rwanda and Kenya, to sign a new pact in the Ugandan capital Entebbe in May last year. The five signatories gave the other Nile Basin countries one year to join the pact before putting it into action. Sudan and Egypt dismissed the new deal while the Congo and Burundi initially refused to sign; Burundi later signed. The agreement cannot be put into action until at least six states sign it.

     

    The new pact is supposed to substitute the 1929 agreement between Egypt and Great Britain on behalf of Britain's colonies which gave Egypt the right to most of the more than 100 billion cubic metres of water that reaches the downstream countries annually. It also gave it the right to veto any new projects or dams to be built by the other Nile states.

     

    Tension further flared when Ethiopia announced it plans to build the Millennium Dam, a hydroelectric power dam along the Blue Nile River, despite objections from Egypt and Sudan. Egyptian fear emanates from the fact that a huge dam on the Nile will in all likelihood influence the flow of water volume to Egypt, which depends on the river for 90 per cent of its needs.

     

    The relations deteriorated to such an extent that many, including Ethiopian opposition leaders, feared military action by Egypt.

     

    Popular diplomacy managed to resolve the conflict and ease the tension.

     

    The same delegation visited the Ugandan city Entebbe last month to discuss the Nile with Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni and other officials.

     

    The purpose of that visit, the first of its kind, was to present the Egyptian people's view on the distribution of the Nile water. It called for the preservation of Egypt's historical water rights and a fresh start to the relationship between the two countries following the 25 January Revolution.

     

    After the visit, Tanzanian Foreign Minister Bernard Membe said his country would conduct a review of the agreement it signed with the other Nile Basin states in May last year.

     

    The delegation plans to pay a visit to the Nuba area on the Egyptian Sudanese borders to resolve the decades- long plight of the people living there. Another visit, El-Guindi said, would be to the US and France in order to write off Egyptian debts. No date has been set for the two visits.

     

    The delegation's visits to Ethiopia and Tanzania helped restore good relations between Egypt and the African countries, or return Egypt to its African roots, as El-Guindi put it. However, more hard work is needed to further improve the ties.

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    Che, wax sheeg adeer. :D

     

    I think we have already told the secessionists that it is obvious the reason that the Kuwaiti's are inviting regions in Somalia is so they can start tapping into our import based economy, same with the Emirati's who also see as a “buy..buy...buy” country and that we have few factories ourselves that produce anything that we can export. Like it's been said, because of the state of our economy we have very little bi- lateral trading, (except for maybe livestock). They will give the same reception to any leader in Somalia, like Yemen’s President has for President Faroole last year.

     

    True. After all, Kuwait and UAE are known for their massive factories and great export traditions. :D

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    ^^ The last team to beat United at the theatre of prawn sandwiches was Chelsea and I would not bet against them doing it again. I also see no chance that THIS United side can in anyway, shape or form beat THAT Barca side (war they could not beat them when they had better players in their squad, you think they'll beat them now with this rubbish team?). :D

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    xiinfaniin;717212 wrote:
    I give you a 'D' for failing to come up with any presidential swagger for Siilaanyo with respect to his trip to UAE and Kuwait other than a newspaper interview
    :D
    , NGONGE.

     

    It is not the Somali websites that denied Siilaanyo the status he so desperately seeks. It is the reality on the ground. In every level of international relations, Somaliland's claim of statehood is roundly rejected.

     

    PS:

    Lest you confuse political leadership of a Somali region with statehood, Puntland's Faroole (yeah I know you don't like him) got better treatment and promise of development money.

    How about a quote from the Kuwaiti forigen affairs ministery, Xiin? Will that do you? :D

     

    الخميس, 28 أبريل/نيسان 2011 22:08
    Kuwait.jpg
    استقبل نائب رئيس مجلس الوزراء ووزير الخارجية، الشيخ د.محمد صباح السالم الصباح، رئيس أرض الصومال، أحمد سيلانيو، وذلك بمناسبة زيارته للبلاد.

     

    حضر اللقاء وكيل وزارة الخارجية السفير خالد سليمان الجارالله، ونائب مدير إدارة مكتب نائب رئيس مجلس الوزراء ووزير الخارجية الوزير المفوض صالح سالم اللوغاني، ومدير إدارة افريقيا بالوكالة المستشار راشد فالح الهاجري، ونائب مدير إدارة الوطن العربي المستشار فيصل ابراهيم الهولي، كما حضره الوفد المرافق لرئيس أرض الصومال.

    Like I already told you, let go of that tired old record and come up with some new argument, saaxib. Unlike the fumbling Imam, Siilaanyo is after international recognition (in the long term), yet, despite that, this countries keep on inviting him and giving him promises of development and assistance. As you can see from the quote above, your "Somali citizen" nonsense is not shared by Kuwait. They, rightly, refer to him as the president of Somaliland (not even "wilaayat Puntland" as some in Kuwait call the Imam's domain). Wax fahan. :D

     

    P.s.

     

    Here is the source:

    http://www.mofa.gov.kw/MOFA/index.php/i--topmenu-38/2741-2011-04-28-19-10-35

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    xiinfaniin;717124 wrote:

     

    How would my friend NGONGE spin this? Oodweyne? Yaa u baxay?

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    Heh. NGONGE does not need to spin any of your speculation, saaxib. The pictures (the original ones) tell the whole story. The plane that picked him from Abu Dhabi and later also flew him back to Hargeisa also tells you that he's no ordinary Somali citizen, he's the president of the Republic of Somaliland, adeer. Don't worry yourself with the Somali websites that live and die by Waxa la yedhi; sawiraha eeg, adeer.

     

    Still, if you want a news report; let me begin by an interview with Siilaanyo by the UAE's Al Bayaan Newspaper (they do refer to him as the president of the REPUBLIC OF SOMALILAND, do they not?). Anyway, read it yourself. ;)

     

    http://www.albayan.ae/one-world/interviews-dialogues/2011-04-28-1.1428871

     

    War this is real adeer amd SL is dealing with all these countries in its own right. You need to change the tired old record or come up with something a bit more interesting, saaxib. ;)

     

    (how is that for spin?).

  23. Posted

    ^^ You're a crap fan, saaxib. You only sing when you're winning. :D

    Chelsea have already achieved more than anybody expected of them this season (after the two month "moment"). They have the momentum and hold all the cards. If they beat United this weekend (which I suspect that they will) I fully believe that they will win the league. Everton is just the team you need for your final game.