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Fiqi Tolkii Kama Jana Tago - You can take A Man from his Clan But You Can't Take Clan From The Man.

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Oodweyne   

Hello Folks,

Here (quoted below) is an article which can be the actual "prime example" of what Somalis were trying to convey when they coined the saying which says: "Fiqi Tolkii Kam Jana Tago" (or words to that effect).

And by that I mean here is article from the always-unfailingly-clannish fellow by the name of Faisal Roble of Wardheernews, who tries, at least in most days, to pass himself off as a Somali Nationalist, when in fact he is nothing of the sort but essentially as a man "carrying-water" (like most Somalis) for his clan's agenda and their political interest.

Moreover, if you recalled when the DP World deal with Somaliland hit the newsstand the world-over and the deal was signed in the UAE, he wrote a trenchant denunciation of an article (in his mouthpiece organ of WardheerNews).

NB:- Read that article in here:  http://www.wardheernews.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Pillaging-Somalia-By-Faisal-Roble.pdf 

And in that article he called what Somaliland was doing (or have done) as basically a deal that was nothing less than a "pillaging of Somalia", which was a very "loaded word" to be using it, to say the least.

If not then it was rather absurdly over-wrought "emotive language" to be using it in a context of a mere commercial deal that is likely to benefit Somaliland far more than she was going to be losing out something under the  terms of that deal. Therefore, it was such a preposterous allegation what he decided to leveled against Somaliland. And in particularly what he wrote actually betrayed (or indicated it) far more of a "telling sign" about his "state of equanimity" than it said anything of an illuminating sort about the subject under discussion, which was the DP World deal with Somaliland.

But still I have to say that having watch him through-out the years, particularly as how he contort himself endlessly to always have a "good word" to say for the political agenda of his "D-Block" folks, while on the other hand never gives any benefit of the doubt to others, or even treat their arguments with same "indulgence" he does it uninterruptedly for the argument of his clannish clique, I wasn't at all surprised to see his latest missive in regards to the issue pertaining to the diplomatic tiff between the UAE and Somalia. And what position he eventually decided to come down on.

And in particularly I wasn't at all surprised to observe the position Mr Roble took in support of what the likes of Mr Ahmed Madobe (i.e., a Kenyan's sniffling stooge if ever there was one in Somalia) have recently taken, particularly in Mr Madobe's argument against the boys of Villa Somalia in favor of the UAE.

And what is also far more "revealing" in here is the same "indulgence" in which Mr Roble goes out of his way to offer to the likes of Mr Gaas (i.e., the "head-case-escapee" from that Upstate's New-York's psychiatric hospital). And in specifically the fulsome support he gives to the "diplomatic position" in which Mr Gaas recently have assumed on the other hand against the SFG in Villa Somalia.

Furthermore, in his missive (in which I have quoted below), Mr Roble seems to never notice how much of a "backward bending" (of a political kind) he is asking the folks of the Villa Somalia to do for the likes of Mr Madobe and Mr Gaas. And of course he is essentially hoping for the folks of Villa Somalia to "accommodate" the likes of Gaas and Mr Madobe, politically.

And for good measure, perhaps unsurprisingly again, we get in here none of the "endless vituperation" (or the foaming-at-the-mouth) we usually got from his pen when the matter under discussion is about what Somaliland is being up to lately. And that is when we see him being true to his "elemental streak" of "venting" his clannish hatred against Somaliland in a rather "steaming language" or in a rather "purple prose" (as it were).

But other times, like now, we get his "mellifluously-seductive-talk" of always appealing and actually bleeding for "understanding" and for "compromises" to be given to whatever position (or stance) the politicians from the "D-Block" across the Somali peninsula assume or take it towards any passing issue of the day.

Hence, as I said it: "Fiqi Tolkii Kama Jana Tago". Or to put it in a more colloquially and wordy term, "you can take the man from the clan's environment, but you can't take the clan's interest from the man's mental-framework".

Lets hope you guys will enjoy his tendentious missive quoted below.

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SENSIBLE LESSONS FROM AN UNGODLY CORNER

May 8, 2018

By Faisal Roble

Seek knowledge “even though it be in China,” said Prophet Mohammed.

As the Dubai-Qatar induced crisis engulfs, and potentially erodes the gains Somalis have made in the last twenty years, the leadership at Villa Somalia must look for lessons elsewhere, even if it is Ethiopia.  With a heavyweight of guilt on my shoulders, I point out that Ethiopia offers this time an invaluable lesson to Somalia; so does Somalia offer its own experience to its neighbors.

Let me start with what lessons Somalia offers to Djibouti, Kenya, and Ethiopia.  All of these countries who military forces are part of the peace-keeping troops, are enjoying political and, to a certain degree economic, stability. In the case of Kenyan, a parliamentary system has survived since Jomo Kenyatta, Uhuru Kenyatta’s late father presided its post-independence government.  Since then, the country came close to the brink of a total meltdown under the weight of ethnic conflict.  The latest crisis was this year when Raila Odinga, a rival of Uhuru, refused to honor the election the crowned Mr. Uhuru.  Raila Odinga’s father, Jaramogi Odinga, was a bitter political rival of Uhuru’s father, and in some ways that feud fans the Kikuyu-Luo ethnic conflict. Kenya is not yet out of the woods of ethnic conflict.

Ethiopia has also had its share of ethnic conflicts. Only a few months ago, most of the country’s regions were awash with an ethnic induced bloody conflict.  The dismantling and a potential eclipse were on the horizon at any given time.  Despite the positive reception Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed received from many corners of the country, the history of Ethiopia dictates that the country is not yet free from the pull as in pulling the county apart factors.

Even leaders in tinny Djibouti never sleep comfortably. The clan conflict within the larges Somali family can any day tear the country apart if contradictions are not handled with an inclusive politics.

So what is the lesson they could all learn from Somalia? Only one but expensive lesson – having a government that is imperfect is much better than to be a country without a government. Just ask Somalis how it feels to destroy your country and start everything from ground zero. Infrastructure rehabilitation is next to impossible for everything that is important for construction is outrageously expensive; institution building following a civil war, where brain and capital drain took both mind and money out of the country would remain a multi-generational problem. Neither is batching up together a tattered civic culture a guarantee. Worse of all,UN and other international entities will take part of your country’s ownership. In other words, international bureaucracy and their hungry troops, including soldiers and NGO workers will partially own the land that was once free. And the mandate of Blue hamlet does not come to end so easily.

The lesson Somalia offers to other African countries neighboring countries, in particular, is not to destroy their respective countries but work to change the system.

But Somalia should learn one small but instructive lesson from Ethiopia in order to save the relationship between Villa Somalia and the regional governments. In accordance with Article 53 of the SFG constitution, Villa needs to be inclusive and invite regional leaders whenever it takes drastic measures that may impact the welfare and public safety of the entire nation.

The administration of Mohammed A. Farmajo is required by law to “consult” regional leaders on some matters.  Ending its long-standing relationship with Dubai qualifies for such a moment.

Here is the lesson Ethiopia offers.  The new Prime Minister of Ethiopia, Dr. Abiy Ahmed recently traveled to Djibouti for a major reorientation of the relationship between the two countries.  Djibouti is both politically and culturally dominated by Somalis.  Its economy is also strongly tied to the Somali region in Ethiopia (DDS).  For a gesture that embedded multiple messages, the Prime Minister invited the president of the Somali region to accompany him on his trip.  Likewise, Dr. Abiy also invited the president of the Oromia region, Lemma Megarsa, to his visit to Kenya.  I was also informed that he may invite Tigris if and when he decides to start talks with Eritreans.

Such an expansion of the tent of consultation appears to be a small gesture but have a bigger message embedded in the action, which Villa Somalia needs to practice politics of inclusion and consultation with regional leaders.  If you do this at the highest level, goes the logic of governing, so would you at the lower level.

In 2012, when former president Hassan Sheikh Mahmoud was invited to the Busan conference to sign the Somali New Deal, he took with him a large entourage to the complete exclusion of the regional governments.  He was riding high on his popularity and failed to look down and see what makes sense in governing a post-failed state. The optics of that trip and his early days of fighting regional leaders did come back to haunt him.

The current move of Villa Somalia to sever its relationship with Dubai may or may not be right. Even so, no one should doubt the SFG absolute rights to safeguard the sovereignty of the nation. Still exercising that right calls for an inclusive and consultative approach to issue of national weight.  Instead of fighting the regional government or even sabotaging them as has been widely reported, Faramjo must reach out to them for a meaningful engagement.

To that end, President Ahmed Madobe of Jubbaland, in his press conference following his return from a visit he paid to both Ethiopia and Dubai, offered a sensible pathway once again to safeguard the unity between the center and the periphery – a crucial unity for stability and unified governance.

Uniting Villa Somalia with the regional governments is a valuable advice that would help and not hurt Villa Somalia.  What would certainly hurt it is creating enemy out of the existing regional governments.

Faisal Roble
Email:faisalroble19@gmail.com

 

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Source:- http://www.wardheernews.com/sensible-lessons-from-an-ungodly-corner/ 

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Oh

What does Mr. Roble has to do to be accepted.

He throws a lot of mud on Ethiopia to become a nationalist

He throws a lot of mud at Somaliland to become a Somali Republic nationalist

Our Roble does not understand that Illey gets respect, by Ethiopian prime ministers, because he reps the Somali Ethiopian, their interests, dreams, ambitions, their unity and common purpose, and dedication of accomplishing these dreams.

 

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Oodweyne   

Old_Observer,

This is what I have written about him back in few months ago:

".........This is the bitter spleen from the usual Faisal Roble, with his never ending verbal war against Somaliland. And against a particular clan within Somailand. Moreover, he actually opened his Wardheer news back in 2007 (or there about) to specifically fight against what he termed as Somaliland's wrongheadedness policies. But we all knew who he had a "clannish beef" with even at that time.

And lest, we forget, even as early 1990s, through universities and other high-leaning institutions in the West, there used exist a "user-group-chain-email", where people used to communicate as groups and whatnot to one another. And that was before anything as fanciful as internet blogs became ubiquitous. And even in those days, Mr Roble, was at it with his "crusade" of the clannish kind against "specific clan" in Somaliland.

And in particular his crusade was essentially about how a "specific clan" in Somaliland is forcing others in the then Northern regions of the then fast decomposing erstwhile Somali Republic, to accept their political agenda at the point of gun. So he has, like his friend, Professor Abdi Samatar, a long record of "clannishly-inspired" vituperation against Somaliland. And against specific clan within it.

So, of course, now he decided to don the mantle of "Fake nationalism" (with lots of learned verbiage probing up, along the way, his bogus argument). And of course, we shan't forget the fact that he is an Ethiopians citizens (of from Ethiopia's regions) when he is trying to convince us of his "holier-than-thou-self-preening" at our expense.

And secondly, when late Col. Cabdilahi Yusuf Yey, actually came to Mogadishu on top of an Ethiopian's tank in and around 2006 and then stayed there till 2008, he actually used to write a "glowing and supporting" articles in Wardheernews (which he then owned it). In particularly about how this is all marvelous news indeed. Even if to others it was nothing of the sort but a pernicious reality to even put up with one day longer than it's necessary.

And his take of then was that Ethiopia was actually a "God-send emissary" to Somalia's nationalism, since they were wholeheartedly supporting his man of the hour, namely, Col. Cabdilaahi Yusuf Yey and his then TFG outfit.

And lo-and-behold, this simple-minded "clannish chancer", by the name of Mr Roble, whose political axe he grinds openly and is actually seen by others of him doing it year after year against some specific clans within Somaliland, is now trying to put on his "fake suit" of Somali nationalism at the expense of us in Somaliland, given that we are his old "historical foe" (as it were)

And for good measure he wants to detain us with a "deeply double-layered tall-tales" about how injurious what we in Somaliland are doing now with this Berberra deal is to the very essence of his alleged Somali state. And, mind you, this state he is talking about exist only in paper and on the UN official documents. But no where else in the world, at least as a fact on the ground. Poor lad, pull the other one, mate, this one (or this argument) is "dead-on-arrival", indeed.

And lastly, the Chinese leader, Mr Zhou Enlai, who was a premier under the great helmsman of China, namely, Mr Mao Zedong, once said that, that "all diplomacy is a continuation of war by other means". And this "motto" in turn was actually a derivative of the famous saying by Von Clausewitz, who once said it, that, "war is a continuation of politics by other means".  

Hence, let me say to Mr Roble, good luck old chap. And in particularly in persuading others to accept your argument (as tendentious as they are) to be anything other than a "verbal equivalent" of a "clannish war against Somaliland by any other means"........."

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Our Mr. Roble spoke or scribbled too soon about UAE and gave it more weight time and computer space than what should have been.

I am not sure if its Clanish leaning or the risk to Somalia that made him come to the ground where the rubber meets the road.

His first scribble was kind of "me too" I am nationalist or internationalist Somali.

 

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Oodweyne   
22 minutes ago, Old_Observer said:

I am not sure if its Clanish leaning or the risk to Somalia that made him come to the ground where the rubber meets the road.

Old_Observer,

The absurdity of this man call Mr Roble is that he is actually defending in here the same kind of "political interference" in which he was alleging the UAE was running inside Somalia when the DP World was making a commercial deal with the Somaliland.

However, since Mr Madoobe (i.e., the Kenyan's stooge) on one hand and Mr Gaas (i.e., the nutter from Pirate-land) on the other hand, are actually doing the same kind of "political dalliance" with the UAE in which Mr Roble was accusing Somaliland of doing it with the UAE recently, then it seems now all of a sudden such a talk is not there anymore.

And to boot, the likes of Mr Roble, are at the moment "sees-no-evil-and-hear-no-evil" sort of mode about the whole alleged interference in which the UAE was said to be doing it within the Somali peninsula.  

In other words, cheap argument is on thing, but this one actually insults the mere intelligence of all those who may, even inadvertently, come to peruse it (as it were). Poor lad. And what is worse in here is that some folks of his "clannish clique" actually take him that seriously. 

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Johnny B   
On 2018-05-09 at 1:00 AM, Old_Observer said:

Oh

What does Mr. Roble has to do to be accepted.

He throws a lot of mud on Ethiopia to become a nationalist

He throws a lot of mud at Somaliland to become a Somali Republic nationalist

Our Roble does not understand that Illey gets respect, by Ethiopian prime ministers, because he reps the Somali Ethiopian, their interests, dreams, ambitions, their unity and common purpose, and dedication of accomplishing these dreams.

 

the Somali Ethiopian is a contradiction in terms.

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4 hours ago, Johnny B said:

the Somali Ethiopian is a contradiction in terms.

Would you rather prefer Ethio-Somali as the name of the region? Somali is Ethnic, Ethiopia is citizenship. The region is called Ethio-Somali regional state. It differenciates from the Djibouti-Somali.

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