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Hada Gooni ma Professorka ayu isku dhererinaya? Somalida waxay meel u gaadhi wayday Taxi driver ayaa Professor isku dhererinaya. 

 

26 minutes ago, gooni said:

12'kun ee reer sool oo ka qaxay dagaalka tuko-raq, jihadee u qaxeen?

Iska daa dadka bini aadamka ah, hal xoolo oo xadka ka talawday maba jirto. Awoowe, xataa xoolaha ayaa garanaya inaan la isku halayn karin maamulka MJteeniya. Dadku wali waa xasusanyihiin 1991kii kolkii hablaha/dumarka beesha Garaadka Bosaso dhexdeeda lagu fara xumeeynaayay. 

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 Labada professor ninka muqdisho jooga ayaa daahir ah. He is a man who stood by his convictions no matter how we disagree/agree  with him. Waa nin daacad u ah fikirkiisa oo markhaati u baahneyn. Walaalki waa arogant with split tongue. 

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1 hour ago, Ducale said:

 Labada professor ninka muqdisho jooga ayaa daahir ah. He is a man who stood by his convictions no matter how we disagree/agree  with him. Waa nin daacad u ah fikirkiisa oo markhaati u baahneyn. Walaalki waa arogant with split tongue. 

Daacad iyo Siyaasad meel ma wada galaan.  If you want daacad, you are in the wrong business. 

Besides, I disagree the gist of your argument here. I think the one in Mogadishu still chasing his tail. Sooner or later he, too, will give up. 

The one in Hargeisa, as the saying goes "xeedhada salkeedii ayu soo taabtay" as far as Unionism and Mogadishu is concerned. 

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1 hour ago, Suldaanka said:

Daacad iyo Siyaasad meel ma wada galaan.  If you want daacad, you are in the wrong business. 

Besides, I disagree the gist of your argument here. I think the one in Mogadishu still chasing his tail. Sooner or later he, too, will give up. 

The one in Hargeisa, as the saying goes "xeedhada salkeedii ayu soo taabtay" as far as Unionism and Mogadishu is concerned. 

 

You are speaking from your position. Whether unionist are delusional or not isn't the point. Abdi samatar soomaali ineyna kala go'in ayuu raba. Nin xil ka hadashiinayona maaha. Fikirkiisa lama wadaago laakiin somalinimadu dacad bey ka tahay. Even if it looks unachievable to us, he believes in it. He is not  motivativated and driven by petty tribal agenda and that's the only reason I said waa daahir. Unless you know something I don't. 

 

The  other one always comes across as if his performing.  His body language and every laba kalmadood oo somalia wuxu ku asturaa mid ama laba English ah. 

 

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I dssagree with you on that one ducaalow I know both the professor samatars and their chief and their close relatives . Professor axmed samatar is not opportunistic. But what happened xiniyo tabaasha dhacday back in 2012. Allot of koonfurians said to samatar join politics  If you wanna  change something.  And he thought Somalida  xamar will elect or select him because of his maskax and  experience. He joint politics  wuu is maqìiqay. Guess what  they told him your laangaab this Mogadishu not borama.   Former warlord yalaxow said to him eebow Mahan goofkeygi waaye. Boorama maha. So he had  talks with Somaliland and he asked forgiveness and we let him back in

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Xaaji,

ONly insecure Landers and those who do not have self confidence believe that politics is all about tribe or something given or taken because of it. Of course tribes are destructive and must not be ignored, but they do not build institutions.

Samatar lost the 2012 election not because he is from Borama. In fact, He never campaigned as an Awdalite. I can assure you that he didn't even get half of those from Awdall in the parliament . He lost because he refused to play the game with rules that existed in Mogadishu. Politics are not only about idea , but coalition building , campaign and money spending, creating and nurturing alliances.It is not a one man show or a boxing match by two. 

I do not want to put down a friend, but Samatar was also arrogant. During the campaign, people suggest to connect with Cali Khaliif, but Samatar refused and dismissed Galaydh . Even when we tried to bring the Farmaajo group and join hands since he was a candidate of change  like Hiil-Qaran, Samatar said, " Farmaajo waa Biig" he considered him a lightweight.

Of course, during the speech by the candidates, he urged people to do something different than they used to do. Ciid Yahay ma ciidihi hore ayuun baad noqon ayuu yidhi. 

One thing is true, Samatar didn't know much about the Southern elite , even though the whole country  was in desperate situation, for them it is business as usual. THey do not know wehre politics end and the natin and the people start.

Going back the issue of Muuse Suudi  saying " Goofkan Anaa Leh", only those who are weak minded would be scared or swayed by a third grade drop out like Muuse. It is all about your outlook in life and politics. C/qaasim Salaad who was selected in Carta in 2000,, partly due to his community which the  most armed clan in Mogadishu and from the HAG clan of Mogadishu and central Somalia, could not pass a hotel in the capital. 

The traditionally, the Reer Woqooyi, never produced star politicians or great players. Among the well known are Cigaal, Siilaanyo, Galaydh and Probably Na Carte Qalib if you add. In order to win you must be in the pitch and join the 11 members of the team. To score the goal, you must play forward and look your chance. Samatar was the only famous reer Woqoyi who dared to run for president for the last 50 years. Forvsome us, he started something that must be be followed.

Xaaji, in politics, no one will give you power. Power is taken by talented or lucky men who are the right place for a right time. The biggest fear among the Habro is that as soon as they joined the south , they will be swallowed by the Southern elite who are better players. Remember, they had a head start in late fifties. While we were worried about being swallowed by king Salaase and fighting for independence in 1957, they already had a government were internal power struggle was accepted while  at the same time working for the betterment of the nation.

I swear to Allah that I am not one of those  swayed by geography or clan name to achieve what I want. Ciyaal Xaafad Asalooti ka yimid oo qabiil aan laabta u garaacin ayaa 2017, madaxtinimada Soomaaliya ku Gulaystay. Illaahay nin buu kaa dhigee isku kalsoonoow oo Soomaali halka ugu sareysa wax ka doon.

On the other hand, even if he was elected in 2012, he could not have fixed these problems. Just like Hassan Sheikh , he would have followed the false notion of the so called " Somalia iyo Somaliand talks that are intended to provide some cash to the Hargeisa elite to extend their rule. 

Xaaji, you know very well  that the day that those of us who know history culture and destiny come to the power , things will not be the same . North, South , East and West will be only directions. Everything created by the Somali tribes during the calamity is just something necessitated by the collapse of the state. We will re-write everything, and will not be wasting time taking . The only peace  I would be interested is , " Peace through strength"

In the mean time , "Reer Koonfurka u bootee oo Sii maaweli"

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Galbeedi your an idealistic qurbajoog. You have nostalgia of the 70s  And 60s  in 1993 Ethiopia organized a conference with the international community  for the Somali factions president cigaal  the moment he enters the building the koonfurians started playing Somalia tooso. And cigaal  said fadhfadhiista meeshi somali no  bugtay way bogsatay we gave up a country we dominated in 1960. We have learned our lessons the hard way  we lost our wealth our cities our very own dignity almost.  But  good that we had brave men such as Luckily  koosaar koodbuur and tuur  siilaanyo ina biixi ina kahin ina mire selebaan gaal  axmed maxamed guleed sheikh cali madar. Adan selebaan Magubte  colonel cabdilahi askar barkhad  general dhagoweyne carab ducaale.   General maxammad cilmi galaan. General maxammad cali. General libaaxe col Adam shiine  col axmed dhagax. Muj talaabo

We corrected our mistake  never again will we be ruled by others.

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suldaan

waa sax kala dambayntu waa wax wanaagsan waana ceebta soomaalidu daawada u weyday.

Haddaad ii sheegto labadaa professor waxay soomaaliya kusoo kordhiyeen intii ay shahaadada qaateen iyo ka horba,sawirkoodaan taxi'gayga ku dhejin.

Kan jaamacadda caamuud wax ka dhiga waa muxtaram abaal iyo khayr u socdo kan jaamacadda muqdisho kasoo saara dhakhtar iyo kalkaaliso sidoo kale

Ninka soomaali weyn waxba ku noqon waayay ugana faa'iidaan waayay aqoontiisa u malayn maayo inuu Snm singapore ka dhigayo

Tan dadka ka qaxay sool

UN'kaa taqriirkeeda kusoo saartay iskama sheegin waxaanan akhrin, ama dhagaysan 

Ma caddaan reer yurub ah yaa snm oran kartaa been baad sheegaysaan?

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6 hours ago, galbeedi said:

Going back the issue of Muuse Suudi  saying " Goofkan Anaa Leh", only those who are weak minded would be scared or swayed by a third grade drop out like Muuse. It is all about your outlook in life and politics. C/qaasim Salaad who was selected in Carta in 2000,, partly due to his community which the  most armed clan in Mogadishu and from the HAG clan of Mogadishu and central Somalia, could not pass a hotel in the capital. 

Galbeedi, the good barfasoor was bothered by bootada Muuse Suudi iyo ereyadiisa in 2012. He didn't know Muuse Suudi and his warlord mentality folks waxaas booto ayee ka tahay. He did that to C/qaasin in 2000, C/llaahi Yuusuf in 2004 (the famous kaba ka waa weyn phrase) to Maxkadamaha in 2006, who dhag jalaq u siinin. His buffoonery booto was well-known. Now you see meeshuu ku dambeeye, wax ka war qaatana jirin - a junior member of Aqalka Sare, powerless. I guess however the good barfasoor's psyche was damaged by the semi-literate warlord's words - it really hit him hard. Perhaps decades being away from Soomaaliya dhaqankii ka badashay, gaar ahaan dhaqanka Reer Koonfurta.

Because of Muuse Suudi's words, he now claims to be a secessionist. Muuse waa inuu maslaxeeyaa ninkaan.

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100% with you guys, you have to have  confidence and  willing to play the game, if guys like  Muuse Suudi or likes chase you from theater, you didn't have what it takes at first. Any of the 4 major tribes can win, that is what Sharif Sakin understoond, and  with confidence run for top office. Meesha cidna uma xirna, waa saa u ciyaartid, sheeka jilicsan buu Samatar meel la taagan yahay , duopoly and nonsense.

Watch this space, before long , someone  not from H or D community will take top position.

 

 

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The good professor is not being honest with us.  If the only explanation he could come up with to justify the dismemberment of Somalia is a casual conversation he had with warlord Muuse Suudi, then that is disgraceful.

The man is very emotional, compared to his brother. Intaa wuu qaylinayaa.

 

 

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Professor samatar is a patriotic Somalilander  who saw the light.  Taubadu wey furantahay. I think his brother  abdi samatar is wasting his time  on the koonfurians.

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Ceebay tacaal. Wuxuu Soomaalinimo ku baroortaba maanta dagaal qabiil buu dhexda uga jiraa. I never took these two brothers seriously. I always sensed dishonesty from their Somalinimo talk. Even when both of them were with the unionist side, they used Somaliland issue to get leverage,  and score a point against Puntland or the Somali government.

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