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Somaliland election could have announced election results Monday night or Tuesday morning

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The chairman said , " all 1600 polling stations had submitted their results and have been counted".

 

Dhamaan waa la soo wada tiriyey oo degmooyinkii ay ka baxeen ayey ku soo noqdeen".

 

They have to go through the second stage of counting at the district level if thee is dispute.

 

By Monday night everyone including the public could have got the results. 

 

Here is how this election could have been finished or early results released Friday.

 

Here are the rules stated by the commission itself:

 

Here are the rules of  the election commission which was stated before the  election.

 

 Here is what the chairman said:

 

First , " Marka lixda maqribnibaha codbixinta  sidaa loo xidho ,goob walba oo cod laga bixiyey waxa jooga oo qol lagu soo xidhaya afar qof oo komishinka ka tirsan oo tirinaya iyo muraaqibiinta saddexda xisbi  qaran u jooga goobaha, marka ay tirinta dhameeyaan , waxa ay ku dhawaaqi doonaan natiijada hordhaca ah ee goob kasta, komishinkuna waxa ay ku dhwaaqi doonaan natiijada hordhaca ah"

 

"As soon as the polls close at 6pm , the four members of the election commission and the three reps (Muraaqibiin) of the parties will be closed in a room and they will start counting.  After they finished counting,  everyone including the party reps will be given the results of every polling station and the preliminary results of every station will be announced".

 

My friends that was the rule. The early elections , especially those held by Daahir Rayaale administration, there were no voter lists or even bio-metric cards. People counted what ever they found in the boxes and no counting had taken place in the rural or village level. All boxes were brought to the district level, and usually it took five to six days.

 

This election was different. Just like in most western nations the system was designed to release the early results  at that same night. Since each of those 1600 hundred polling stations had the same staff and rules of counting, all results could have been known Monday night.

 

Do not be fooled  by the commission statements that " since Hargeisa is huge place it will take longer to count". Of course it will take more time after you bring all boxes from over three hundred polling stations, but at polling level you have exact same staff. If Awdal had over hundred  polling stations,  HArgeisa had double. That means every station has the ability to count and send it's results Monday night. The so called 200,000 hargeisa voters are spread out to hundred of polling station.

 

The problem is as soon as the early results came out the commission decided not to announce , but use delaying tactics and pretend nothing has been counted yet  " Hargeisa oo degmo weyn ah weli lama tirin" was an excuse used. He did tell that, but  it was already counted, but he should have said that all results are in , and what remains is double checking of the results.

 

Saeed Cali Muuse is the protegee of Mr Adami , the defense minister who was  the election chairman in 2003. Mr. Muuse, the man who said nothing of concern had  happened , is one of those hungry diaspora members who is probably willing to cash in.

 

Insiders are telling us that the day the East Burco and West Burco community reached agreements to cooperate and build brotherly and neighborly situation  in their regions, Kulmiye had panicked and started fraud mechanism to steal the election. Ahmed Siilaanyo won over 70% of Togdheer, yet now it seems  Waddani  is leading. Even Some Suldaans from West Hargeisa had threatened the East Burco guys demanding the it's their turn and they must give the " Hagbad" to Kulmiye. 

 

There are huge forces that would not allow change of government. The cable company of ina Aw Said,  which is financed by Djibouti banks had spent millions to keep the monopoly. Reliable sources said that in Awdal alone he spent $450,000 dollars. His representatives in Awdal had bought thousands of cards. He paid and moved people from Djibouti and gave them those  cards he bought from Awdal. His reps were chased from Rays Hotel and other places openly buying cards from poor people. 

 

Dubai World Ports and UAE would not accept any renegotiation or cancelling of their  military base. The war in Yemen is getting bad,  but  the UAE is concentrating to keep South Yemen and Aden in their hands. They even refused the relocation of President Maansour Hadi from Jeddah  to Aden.  

 

I want to conclude that this election result could have been known just like in most places in the world, and if there was any disputes , recounting would have taken place. 

 

Why take six days or even three days?. I think this commission has created a mess. 

 

If they have announced the result Tuesday Morning everyone would have swallowed and moved on. If there is dispute, then do recounts. Yet, they tried to be in the news and make useless news conferences to be irrelevant. Rater than act quickly and and get out of the stage, they decided to make  the burden of proof bigger. Why even have spokes person. 

 

You done your job, people had voted, then announce and disappear. Mr. Iman has created a mess and he does not know how to get out of this mess.

 

 

 

 

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What an opportunity lost. As Sheekh Adan siiro said they could have done live television. 

 

By by midnight or 11pm all results could been broadcasted from the national television  

 

every polling station could  have sent their results to the commission headquarters     

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Galbeedi, that is probably the next great leap for Somaliland. The process of broadcasting results live on TV and letting Somali TV pundits pour over the results district by district is something I am waiting to see in my lifetime. 

 

Can you imagine hearing these words on live TV (in Somali of course)

 

"We are now seeing a shift in the voting habits of the Oodweyne camel belt"  or  "Berbera has decided this election, my friends. The coast region has completely abandoned Kulmiye"

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18 hours ago, Libaax-Sankataabte said:

Galbeedi, that is probably the next great leap for Somaliland. The process of broadcasting results live on TV and letting Somali TV pundits pour over the results district by district is something I am waiting to see in my lifetime. 

 

Can you imagine hearing these words on live TV (in Somali of course)

 

"We are now seeing a shift in the voting habits of the Oodweyne camel belt"  or  "Berbera has decided this election, my friends. The coast region has completely abandoned Kulmiye"

Actually the words said by the live broadcasters would be more like "reer hebel ayaa maanta isu soo baxay oo ugu shubay inankoodii" ama "reer hebel ayaa maanta la saftay reerkaa kale oo waxay uwada shirqooleen reer hebel" But hey, this is also democracy Somali style.

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