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galbeedi   

From 1960 to 1969, during the Parliamentary democracy, the long foot community had one member in the Somali republic parliament. Even some suggested that they did not have enough number to win seats. Any an honorary seat were given to them by the Somali government who were campaigning for "Shanta Soomaaliyeed". I was one of those who welcomed the formation of Jubbaland administration on the hope that it may reduce the treat of Al-shabaab and minimize the confrontation of Kenyan military who were occupying Kismaayo. By naming Mr. Halane the Prime Minister, the president is sending a massage that aligning your self with a foreign power pays off. The proxy militia of the Kenyan government is finally given the post of the Prime minister. Every body knows they are not even the majority of the jubba region. The Bay community is twice the number of long foot. If being the proxy militia of a neighboring country is the answer to gain the power , let us fold this notion of Somali nation and fight foe every ones tribal home land. The *** community of south and the Bay people have already spoken and rejected this false jubba. The tribal war of 1991 may restart again.

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Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar;990743 wrote:
Waa macquul oo dhici karo. The other day I was reading the 'required' credentials of ra'iisul wasaaraha cusub from madaxtooyada. It seemed it was an official document and one of the top requirement expected from anyone seeking this position was s/he 'must not' have any conflict or enemity with neighbouring countries (read: Xabashida iyo Kuukaayada). Saas ayaa noo dambeysay Soomaali haddaa nahnay, and some are happy to be subjects of Xabashada iyo Kuukaayada than in mid Soomaali kalo u taliyo in midnimo iyo walaaltinimo.

 

It is truly an unfortunate state we are in.

 

This link says the opposite i.e. it was Xalane who was rejected

 

http://rajonews.com/2013/12/11/xasan-sheekh-oo-laga-diiday-in-xuseen-cabdi-xalane-laga-dhigo-raisul-wasaaraha-dalka/

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Faafan   

galbeedi;990761 wrote:
From 1960 to 1969, during the Parliamentary democracy, the long foot community had one member in the Somali republic parliament. Even some suggested that they did not have enough number to win seats. Any an honorary seat were given to them by the Somali government who were campaigning for "Shanta Soomaaliyeed".

The honorary seat was perhaps for the occupied province not members of a clan. They had their own seats in Somalia, most from Jubba and even some from Bakool/Gedo(Baardheere especially), PM nominee Halane is from western Bakool. Instead of writing emotional clan vitriol do some research.

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galbeedi   

President Hassan Sheekh will regret if he appoints this Kenyan stooge while ignoring many other prominent Somalis who hail from important regions. Why not nominate The people of Shabeelaha hoose whom their land stretches from Afgooye to Kismaayo, or Puntland. Why not nominate Fowsiya Haji Adan who Showed grit and determinations.

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galbeedi;990768 wrote:
President Hassan Sheekh will regret if he appoints this Kenyan stooge while ignoring many other prominent Somalis who hail from important regions. Why not nominate The people of Shabeelaha hoose whom their land stretches from Afgooye to Kismaayo, or Puntland. Why not nominate Fowsiya Haji Adan who Showed grit and determinations.

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galbeedi   

they had one single seat, go research them. they never got elected from Baardheere or Bakool. There seat was Afmadow district. look I do not mind if any competent Somali becomes prime minister regardless of his tribe . What I am against is a proxy militia backed by Kenya taking stake in the affairs of a nation rising from the destabilization of the neighboring countries.

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thefuturenow;990734 wrote:
I pray that this is not true.

galbeedi;990774 wrote:
they had one single seat, go research them. they never got elected from Baardheere or Bakool. There seat was Afmadow district. look I do not mind if any competent Somali becomes prime minister regardless of his tribe . What I am against is a proxy militia backed by Kenya taking stake in the affairs of a nation rising from the destabilization of the neighboring countries.

Nonsense. I can at least recall Maxamuud Maalinguur for one. Another xildhibaan was elected from Baardheere, a prominent SYL member. This Xalane person is Reer Xuddur, not clanwise but community-wise, same with Nuuradiin Aaden Diiriye, whose name keeps coming in this process. He is another Reer Xuddur/Waajid.

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The Zack   

galbeedi;990761 wrote:
From 1960 to 1969, during the Parliamentary democracy, the long foot community had one member in the Somali republic parliament. Even some suggested that they did not have enough number to win seats. Any an honorary seat were given to them by the Somali government who were campaigning for "Shanta Soomaaliyeed". I was one of those who welcomed the formation of Jubbaland administration on the hope that it may reduce the treat of Al-shabaab and minimize the confrontation of Kenyan military who were occupying Kismaayo. By naming Mr. Halane the Prime Minister, the president is sending a massage that aligning your self with a foreign power pays off. The proxy militia of the Kenyan government is finally given the post of the Prime minister. Every body knows they are not even the majority of the jubba region. The Bay community is twice the number of long foot. If being the proxy militia of a neighboring country is the answer to gain the power , let us fold this notion of Somali nation and fight foe every ones tribal home land. The *** community of south and the Bay people have already spoken and rejected this false jubba. The tribal war of 1991 may restart again.

Waar ninku been badanaa! It is either you are lying on purpose or you are dead ignorant. The mentioned community had an MP even in Hargeisa in the 60's.

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galbeedi   

look, I may have missed some facts, but the fact is even the Hargeisa one never elected the second time. people from Puntland were elected in Hiiraan and places that the community does not have large numbers. it was a democracy and people elected those they think were competent or well organized. he could be born in Afgooye does not matter. the issue here is demography. Their main district were Afmadow. Please tell any other district trhey form the majority of the residents in the sixties.The debate on this topic is if it wasn't Kenyan occupation of Kismaayo this guy could not have been considered for this post.

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galbeedi   

We all know Madoobe was is a warlord. He was Al-shaab, before he was switched sides. he was Dahir Aweys's point man in jubba conflict. Latter he was wounded and captured by the Ethiopian forces who took him out of the country for medical operation. He would never have a leader of any thing without the Kenya. Halane is the man who put Ahmed Madoobe.in Jubba. My main argument is he tribal groups are gaining power by serving the interest of the neighboring countries.

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The Zack   

galbeedi;990761 wrote:
From 1960 to 1969, during the Parliamentary democracy, the long foot community had one member in the Somali republic parliament. Even some suggested that they did not have enough number to win seats. Any an honorary seat were given to them by the Somali government who were campaigning for "Shanta Soomaaliyeed". I was one of those who welcomed the formation of Jubbaland administration on the hope that it may reduce the treat of Al-shabaab and minimize the confrontation of Kenyan military who were occupying Kismaayo. By naming Mr. Halane the Prime Minister, the president is sending a massage that aligning your self with a foreign power pays off. The proxy militia of the Kenyan government is finally given the post of the Prime minister. Every body knows they are not even the majority of the jubba region. The Bay community is twice the number of long foot. If being the proxy militia of a neighboring country is the answer to gain the power , let us fold this notion of Somali nation and fight foe every ones tribal home land. The *** community of south and the Bay people have already spoken and rejected this false jubba. The tribal war of 1991 may restart again.

galbeedi;990811 wrote:
look, I may have missed some facts, but the fact is even the Hargeisa one never elected the second time. people from Puntland were elected in Hiiraan and places that the community does not have large numbers. it was a democracy and people elected those they think were competent or well organized. he could be born in Afgooye does not matter. the issue here is demography. Their main district were Afmadow. Please tell any other district trhey form the majority of the residents in the sixties.The debate on this topic is if it wasn't Kenyan occupation of Kismaayo this guy could not have been considered for this post.

No you have not misstated some facts, your entire post was baseless. Look... in the 60's, Somalia was only 8 states. Nobody had their own state. Gedo didn't exist in the 60's, nor did Awdal or Nugaal. Are you telling me that this mentioned community has all of the sudden moved to the below districts and somehow ended up being the majority or good junk of its residents? Where were you in the 1800's Research and find out the facts before you post some baseless "facts".

 

Jubbada Hoose:

Badhaadhe

AFmadow

Xagar

 

Jubbada Dhexe:

Buaale

Salagle

Saakow

 

Bakool:

Ceelbarde

Aato

Yeed

 

If we are talking about demographic changes; they are actually victims of that. Where is baardheere? Where is Caabudwaaq. They used to be the majority in those places, not anymore.

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galbeedi   

Xaaji is correct. A Mp from puntland was elected twice in Hiiraan. Also being a member of the SYL machine was crucial to be elected. There were historical literature mentioning confrontation between the Long Foot community and the British in the Jubba region, but if you compare other communities who are inhabitants of the jubboa area they are a minority.Even during the Kacaanka they never became mayors of Kismaayo. Also do not forget, there are large influx of refugees and others who crossed the border for the last thirty years- which are legitimate Somalis who were seeking shelter- Badhaadhe iyo Afmadow maanta way degen yihiin. Bay iyo Bakool if election is held they won't get a seat. that land is D&M country today.Bu'ale Saakow and surrounding country side is dominated by Jareer Weyne community and others. Both the Kacaanka community and Long foot are minority in the jubba region. In today's Somalia your number does not mean any thing, as long as you armed and backed by some entity. look Janeraal Indha Cadde, he says his community should be the legitimate rulers of Shabeelaha Hoose. who knows when the Kukuyo army leaves Madoobe may follow them in Kenya as some Jubba people suggested.

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