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well in any case, let's not split hairs. It is all rather disgusting and fyi, I said, more women for "real" men.

 

I don't think I'd call any man who lost a woman to a lesbo or a fruitcake a real man by any definition. :D

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Tillamook;964938 wrote:
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It seems you know a tad bit much about the working conditions at
Camp Qoomul Luud.
No offense, but why is that?

FYI qoomul Luut existed thousands of years ago. The people of to day are qoomul Mohammad [pbuh] and have nothing to do with Luut and his people.

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Tillamook;964945 wrote:
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well in any case, let's not split hairs. It is all rather disgusting and fyi, I said, more women for "real" men.

 

I don't think I'd call any man who lost a woman to a lesbo or a fruitcake a real man by any definition.
:D

Whether you call yourself a real man or an alien do not make you any different to the gay man. The only distinction between you and a gay man is whom you fancy.

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No need to get pedantic.

 

As for differences...I dont care either way as long as I do not have to see such blatant deviancy.

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Really? Was that what you were doing? Trying to discuss an issue? LOL:D

 

O.k, I will bite...let's have a discussion then.

 

Why do you support gay marriage?

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Tillamook;964953 wrote:
Really? Was that what you were doing? Trying to discuss an issue? LOL:D

 

O.k, I will bite...let's have a discussion then.

 

Why do you support gay marriage?

I believe homosexuals have the right to be in a loving relationship. Why do you have any problem with that?

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N.O.R.F;964922 wrote:
The culminated of a concerted campaign over 30 years. Slowly slowly we saw them in comedy shows and movies as funny 'likeable' characters setting up one platform after another where it is seen as perfectly normal by many in the west today. Bringing in such laws was only a matter of time.

The same could be said of African Americans and the beginnings of their television presence in the '60s. The original Star Trek series is an excellent example as it featured one of the earliest interracial kisses on TV.

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warsamaale;964896 wrote:
this discussion is just a classic illustration of why multiculturalism and coexistence will utterly fail in the west. they have let in peoples whose values and morals ( despite their supposed western education ) can only be described as medieval. i look forward gleefully to this unfolding culture clash.

That my friend is ignorance at it's best. You talk of multiculturalism and coexistence yet promote, rather matter of fact, that another's cultural values and moral system is the norm the correct one?

You have successfully transited, well done. Tolerance and modern liberal values are facts and everything else anyone outside of that is medieval.

 

And who is this 'they'?- And just because I've had a western education, why must I think like them? do I not have my own identity, cultural and religion to define myself with?

 

The prime goal of marriage is procreation, an institution that is the cornerstone of human society. Everything else is in the grey-box.

 

 

NG- You live in the west? yes. You have lived there are considerable amount of time correct? You vote/democracy?- All in all 'we' westerners have redefined marriage.

Don't exclude yourself from the society you live in, socialize in, bring up children in. That 'other gaalo' value system is there in you home, your kids schools and social groups. You can't escape it no matter how a great parent you are EVERY one is a product of their society.

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Reeyo;965030 wrote:
That my friend is ignorance at it's best. You talk of multiculturalism and coexistence yet promote, rather matter of fact, that another's cultural values and moral system is the norm the correct one?

You have successfully transited, well done. Tolerance and modern liberal values are facts and everything else anyone outside of that is medieval.

 

And who is this 'they'?- And just because I've had a western education, why must I think like them? do I not have my own identity, cultural and religion to define myself with?

 

The prime goal of marriage is procreation, an institution that is the cornerstone of human society. Everything else is in the grey-box.

 

 

NG- You live in the west? yes. You have lived there are considerable amount of time correct? You vote/democracy?- All in all 'we' westerners have redefined marriage.

Don't exclude yourself from the society you live in, socialize in, bring up children in. That 'other gaalo' value system is there in you home, your kids schools and social groups. You can't escape it no matter how a great parent you are EVERY one is a product of their society.

 

Well put Reeyo. The liberals think they're nature's gift to humanity and only their way of thinking is the saviour of humanity. It's the height of ignorance. As a former liberal (now a hard core, Stalinist, conservative), the above was the way I used to think. To sum, we are living through a tyranny of the liberal ideology and it will pass, like a bad odour.

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Reeyo;965030 wrote:
That my friend is ignorance at it's best. You talk of multiculturalism and coexistence yet promote, rather matter of fact, that another's cultural values and moral system is the norm the correct one?

You have successfully transited, well done. Tolerance and modern liberal values are facts and everything else anyone outside of that is medieval.

I'm not for multiculturalism or coexistence by the way, am for the subjugation of inferior cultures by superior ones. i have no transited, but have always held the same positions. and yes anyone that doesn't ascribe to modern liberal values is medieval IMO but you could disagree.

 

Reeyo;965030 wrote:
And who is this 'they'?- And just because I've had a western education, why must I think like them? do I not have my own identity, cultural and religion to define myself with?

The usual suspects who leave their shitty countries to migrate to the developed world, then create enclaves, breed by the dozens,refuse to assimilate, and generally transplant their primitive ways to the civilized world and expect to bend these societies to their will. why did you leave your country if your going to recreate a mirror image of it here, just go back.

 

Reeyo;965030 wrote:
The prime goal of marriage is procreation, an institution that is the cornerstone of human society. Everything else is in the grey-box.

The primary goal of marriage is satisfy urges of the loin, procreation is just a byproduct, an afterthought, lets not kid ourselves.

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Apophis;965034 wrote:
Well put Reeyo. The liberals think they're nature's gift to humanity and only their way of thinking is the saviour of humanity. It's the height of ignorance. As a former liberal (now a hard core, Stalinist, conservative), the above was the way I used to think. To sum, we are living through a tyranny of the liberal ideology and it will pass, like a bad odour.

I hope you haven't cast me for a modern liberal. I'm completely against any federal or even state entity attempting to define marriage, the only information that should be required for taxation purposes, is proof of cohabitation for a whatever length of time is deemed appropriate. Whether a religious institution chooses to recognize a marriage between two homosexuals, as some have, should be left up to that institution. The same goes for interracial marriages, cases of incest between two adults etc. You are forced to tolerate, not approve of, what anyone does so long as it does not breach your individual rights.

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Tallaabo;964959 wrote:
I believe homosexuals have the right to be in a loving relationship. Why do you have any problem with that?

Tallaabo, nobody here is opposed to what these homosexuals do to themselves in the privacy of their homes. The issue at hand here is, should they be allowed to enjoy the same rights as a married heterosexual couple? Now, the supreme court struck down a federal law that defined marriage as a union between a man and a woman, giving the individual states to decide for themselves. As you know, depending on the majority of these respective states, some states have allowed it, other have said no, and still other have said yes to civil unions but no to marriage. Ultimately the citizens will decide, which is why this system works.

 

Thus, I believe you should confine your debate to these parameters.

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Apophis   

Blackflash;965041 wrote:
I hope you haven't cast me for a modern liberal. I'm completely against any federal or even state entity attempting to define marriage, the only information that should be required for taxation purposes, is proof of cohabitation for a whatever length of time is deemed appropriate. Whether a religious institution chooses to recognize a marriage between two homosexuals, as some have, should be left up to that institution. The same goes for interracial marriages, cases of incest between two adults etc. You are forced to tolerate, not approve of, what anyone does so long as it does not breach your individual rights.

 

I agree, the state should either protect the institution of marriage or leave it to the religious institutions. But they shouldn't take sides and force the majority to abandon their moral values. And I've always took you to be a pragmatist rather than a modern liberal.

 

 

warsamaale;965045 wrote:
That is an oxymoron, that two are incompatible dude
:D

You're confusing dirty Trotskyism with Stalinism. Educate yourself sxb.

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