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Farooles lack of response on the fighting in Cayn + occupation of LA

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Originally posted by Che -Guevara:

 

 

Mr.Somalia...I guess Puntland has be redefined?

Is it just loose federation of tribes or recognizable political entity defined boundaries? If it's the former, your argument hold water but it's the latter, the abject failure of Puntland administration can not be excused and situation in Sool can not be simply written off family feud. And as Somali person, if you believe in holding together what ever is left of this country, the SSC remaining in Puntland should be your goal.

Puntland's goal is that we respect the true political wishes of the people SSC, whatever that may be. And since that day is fast approaching, we won't have too long to wait, to know whether this is merely a failure on the part of the Puntland administration or as I insist, a family feud or both.

 

We will wait and see.

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Duufaan   

This is not a family dispute. Puntland administration is not neutral what is going on SSC region and they will accountable. Right now puntland is Ethiopian and Somaliland side. They are all working together against the people of SSC. After Buuhoodle incident, Recently Puntland sent a delegation with bags of money in Buuhoodle and Tukuraq to disrupt the locals to defend themselves. Since Burwadal meeting started puntland administration has spent one and half million dollars to disrupt SSC movement. SSC do not need help, we are only asking puntland to spend their money something else.

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Taleexi   
Duufaan :::: Xiin states above we are a collection of clans (which has some truth in it)and in there he admits that PL is merely a toothless, nominal state --a state of mind entity-- not a functioning state that can protect her borders and citizens thus,all PL can offer to SSC is a goodwill and moral support. Considering the face value of Xiin's remarks SSC people have to work against all odds in order they realize their inalienable rights. However, you got it wrong where you stated "SSC do not need help" quite contrary SSC needs friends, and any help that it can harness from anyone willing to assist their quest.

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Duufaan   

Manza

 

Xiin xaalkiisu waa

Nin anbaday halkuu aaday waa ula ekoonoode

Ama

Abtirsiimadaa ihodey aadan caraboowe.

uma baahnin caawimo waxaan kawadaa.

 

SSC waxay joogaan deegaankooda, soomaaliland dhinaca soomaaliya waxaa kaxiga SSC. Waxay SSC ubaahan yihiin mudnimo, maamulka puntland wuxuu kashaqaynaysaa inay midoobin. caawimada beelaha kale waxaa ka mihiimsan midnimada SSC. Tolkuna waa badan yahay hadii caawimo loo baahdo.

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Originally posted by Qudhac:

so its as i suspected faroole and your pirateland feildom has been trully mugged by riyaale.

 

and now you are hoping for miracles for the locals to fight on your behalf when your lot cowardly skipped town looool

His using deflection as a tool. Whenever you see him with " :D " his really crying smile.gif . His people are the ones that are getting mugged, and what does he do? smh,

 

Just look at the situation they're in, enough said.

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Originally posted by Mr. Somalia:

Puntland's goal is that we respect the true political wishes of the people SSC, whatever that may be. And since that day is fast approaching, we won't have too long to wait, to know whether this is merely a failure on the part of the Puntland administration or as I insist, a family feud or both.

 

We will wait and see.

The true political wishes of SSC were explicitly expressed in the founding of Puntland as they are part of the original founders. They never denounced Puntland. Even now, their anger is towards the leadership not the very existence or people of Puntland.I think this fact needs to be the basis of this argument.

 

LA changed hands cuz one man decided he's no longer getting his fair share of the loot. The Garaads, Politicians, dhalinyaro, dumar, diasporo and the general public at large never sat down and denounced Puntland in favor of secession. How could one man and his immediate cousins represent SSC. The division within SSC is overblown and quite honestly, you are playing into the hands of secessionists.

 

When the SSC folks found Puntland along with the rest of the gang, they entrusted rights and responsibilities to Puntland Administration. They chose to operate within the context of Puntland.Now why Puntland ignore those rights and responsibilities?

 

Now if the argument is, Puntland is loose clan federation with each clan responsible for its own well being, then what's the whole point of this thing. Why be part of something you will not benefit from or something you could do on your own.

 

But if Puntland is actual existing entity that's responsible for all its people and land, those they fail to reign in on Haabsade and Co should be held accountable. There's family division is not excuse. There's clear abdication of responsibility. We are incapable of doing anything or Ethiopia is in the way would be better excuse.

 

As it stands now, the massacres in Buhoodle and Whidwhid, mass arrest of reer LA, the countless demonstrations, and explicit directives of the Garaads are testimony to where SSC loyalty lies. Even if you believe these folks are working to establish their mini land, they still wanna be part of Somalia-something Puntland should safeguard.

 

We will wait and see when Somaliland is throwing its full weight behind the aggressors is not good decision to be made.

 

My hope is this conflict to be avoided all together, unfortunately haaraagii Barre government are shortsighted and actually thrive in conflict. And what is more unfortunate are the poor folks are being lied to 20 years, now being forced to destroy their earned peace.

 

This conflict if ignites fully will get nasty and there will be no neutral part.Now the question is whose side will Puntland be on?

 

Let's hope the best and may cooler heads prevail.

 

 

Oodweyne.....Noted but I will add one thing your aura of arrogance reminds me of koofi cas kids in 80s Xamar or nostalgic remembrance of 60s by some members of our society. For you sake, I hope Somaliland is as well prepared (politically and militarily)as you seem to believe for this conflict will throw the last safe haven for Somalis into intractable chaos easily exploited by usual suspects!!

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Hales   

Originally posted by Norfsky:

^What are SSC fighitng for?

To

 

e Ethiopian soldiers were brought to the border area at a time when the one-clan based secessionist enclave calling itself Somaliland is desperately trying to expand its occupation to everywhere in the unionist regions of Sool, Sanaag and Cayn (SSC), parts of which it occupied in October 2007, including the regional capital, Lascanod. Its goal this time is to show the world during its forthcoming election in June that it is in full control of the whole of former British Somaliland and that the elections have been held peacefully everywhere – something it hopes might usher recognition. Unfortunately for them, the people in the SSC regions have been equally determined to ensure that no such bogus elections take place in their regions and that they liberate themselves once and for all from the secessionist’s yoke and remain part and parcel of Somalia.

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N.O.R.F   

^so they're freeing themselves from a seccesionist enclave that they feel could gain recognition in the near future?

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me   

Originally posted by Norfsky:

^so they're freeing themselves from a seccesionist enclave that they feel
could gain recognition
in the near future?

Huh, adga ma gaas baad cabtay maanta? Meesha ka fadhiiso Norf. First you post about Freemasons and now your mumbeling shid, wax walba ma caadi baa maanta? take it easy bro. Drink plenty of fluids and stay away from the sun.

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Hales   

Originally posted by Norfsky:

^so they're freeing themselves from a seccesionist enclave that they feel
could gain recognition
in the near future?

I dont know what they feel about Somalilands recognition to be honest.

But they most likely do know that their dealing with an seccessionist entity which wishes to break large parts of the North off Somalia sovereignty.

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