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Originally posted by Biixi:

So If someone disagrees with your ambitions that makes them automatically a Kaafir?

It doesn't necessarily has to be someone who disagrees with your ambitions; it could be someone who does kufr actions, thereby making him/her Kaafir.

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Dhubad.   

This man is responsible what is happening Somalia now, indeed he admits that himself. He led the Ethiopians to our country so many times before remember 70s,the Puntland conflict between him and Jaamac(can't remember the year) and now. So I ask how such a man can be a saviour?

 

The people who support him purely do it for Qabiil reason. The man has no lore whatsoever; he is not a great speaker who can draw support from the ordinary people, he hasn’t done anything for anyone (apart of giving government positions to some of his kinsmen ) since he became President. So tell me one good reason as to why I (and everyone else in that matter) should support him???

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KEYNAN22   

Because you don't have a better alternative at the moment.

 

Anyway there is no proof of abdullahi yusuf being involved in the disgusting slaughter of somali civilians and the man made famine in the south and moqdishu region during the 90's. He was busy building peace in puntland during this period, so calling him a mass killer is a bit dishonest and misplaced.

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Sky   

Keynan what else do you expect? The truth from them? That they hate him, because he's from Clan X?

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Taliban   

Originally posted by KEYNAN22:

Anyway there is no proof of abdullahi yusuf being involved in the disgusting slaughter of somali civilians and the man made famine in the south and moqdishu region during the 90's. He was busy building peace in puntland during this period, so calling him a mass killer is a bit dishonest and misplaced.

There's clear proof of the clan president Abdullahi Yusuf being involved in the slaughter of innocent civilians, in both Bari and other regions. It's only natural a warlord would engage in slaughtering innocent civilians, therefore, Abdullahi Yusuf being one of the top warlords, he couldn't evade the handiwork and trademark of warlords. Of course, to the clan president's close kins and inner circles, he's not a warlord and war criminal.

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Originally posted by Taliban:

quote:Originally posted by KEYNAN22:

Anyway there is no proof of abdullahi yusuf being involved in the disgusting slaughter of somali civilians and the man made famine in the south and moqdishu region during the 90's. He was busy building peace in puntland during this period, so calling him a mass killer is a bit dishonest and misplaced.

There's clear proof of the clan president Abdullahi Yusuf being involved in the slaughter of innocent civilians, in both Bari and other regions. It's only natural a warlord would engage in slaughtering innocent civilians, therefore, Abdullahi Yusuf being one of the top warlords, he couldn't evade the handiwork and trademark of warlords. Of course, to the clan president's close kins and inner circles, he's not a warlord and war criminal.
What proof? He has not slaughtered people, like some warlords in Xamar have. He has fought a war with Jamaac Ali Jamaac and the casualities on both sides were present but not like some would say ' were genocidal'. He fought a Guerilla war with Siad Barre. Some will say he killed Siad Barre's kinsmen in the border regions of Somalia. Siad Barre a president of Somalia killed many citizens of Somalia himself, including those of Abdullahi Yusuf kinsmen in Galkacyo and North Mudug region as a whole.

What do you expect him to do? Sit silently?

 

He has never occupied somebodies house, he was president of puntland and never hunted his citizens down like some other somalis.

 

 

NOW WHERE ARE THESE BARI KILLINGS OR ANY OTHER REGION? DO YOU KNOW WHEN TWO OPPOSING SIDES FIGHT THAT THERE WILL BE CASUALTIES OF WAR? IF YOU DON'T WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THEN KINDLY LEAVE MATTERS TO THOSE WHO DO KNOW.

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Taliban   

Originally posted by Taako Man:

What proof?

A tip of the iceberg proof:

 

Implicated in extrajudicial killings

 

The U.S. Department of State, in its 2002 Country Report on Human Rights Practices, identifies milita members loyal to Ahmed as being responsible for at least two deliberate killings of non-combatants while he was president of the disputed regional state of Puntland:

 

* On January 11, 2002, Garah Mohammed Said Gom'ad, a prominent businessman, was reportedly killed by forces of Yusuf Ahmed in a deliberate attack in which Yusuf's militia reportedly stopped his car and Gom'ad was fatally shot.

 

*On August 17 2002, Sultan Ahmed Mohammed Hurre, a British citizen, was killed by bodyguards in the employ of Yusuf Ahmed as their respective convoys passed each other approximately two miles south of the Puntland town of Garowe. Hurre was known for opposing the extension of Ahmed's presidency in the state of Puntland; according to the press reports, he was targeted by Ahmed for arrest as a religious extremist. Ahmed later claimed that the killing was accidental, but witnesses claimed otherwise.

 

The Country Report says that by the end of 2002 no action had been taken against those responsible for the killings.

 

Militias associated with Yusuf Ahmed have also been implicated in the killings of Col. Farah Mohamed Said ("Farah Dheere") in Garowe in 2002, and of traditional leader Malaaq Seemow Abdi Garuunin Baidoa, on June 9, 2006.

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdullahi_Yusuf

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Originally posted by Taliban:

quote:Originally posted by Taako Man:

[qb] What proof?

A tip of the iceberg proof:

 

Implicated in extrajudicial killings

 

The U.S. Department of State, in its 2002 Country Report on Human Rights Practices, identifies
milita members loyal
to Ahmed as being responsible for at least two deliberate killings of non-combatants while he was president of the disputed regional state of Puntland:

 

* On January 11, 2002, Garah Mohammed Said Gom'ad, a prominent businessman, was reportedly killed by forces of Yusuf Ahmed in a deliberate attack in which Yusuf's militia
reportedly
stopped his car and Gom'ad was fatally shot.

 

*On August 17 2002, Sultan Ahmed Mohammed Hurre, a British citizen, was killed by bodyguards in the employ of Yusuf Ahmed as their respective convoys passed each other approximately two miles south of the Puntland town of Garowe. Hurre was known for opposing the extension of Ahmed's presidency in the state of Puntland;
according to the press reports
, he was targeted by Ahmed for arrest as a religious extremist. Ahmed later claimed that the killing was accidental, but witnesses claimed otherwise.

 

The Country Report says that by the end of 2002 no action had been taken against those responsible for the killings.

 

Militias associated
with Yusuf Ahmed have also been implicated in the killings of Col. Farah Mohamed Said ("Farah Dheere") in Garowe in 2002, and of traditional leader Malaaq Seemow Abdi Garuunin Baidoa, on June 9, 2006.

 

 

Basically his clansmen have been reportedly, allegedly, and associated with incidents. No proof of the matter that he's killed anybody. Their are only reports and allegations.

 

Anyhow, WHERE ARE THE GENOCIDES IN BARI?. Or are you still looking throw the web MR TALIBAN.

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N.O.R.F   

Has the old man left the hospital? He has an invite at the Ethio Embassy and his fans are also invited.

 

Watch what you eat in there ;)

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