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The Gambia Parliament debates about Somaliland

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cadnaan1   

At the end he said it 

The Somaliland issue was never an AU agenda not even mentioned in any AU meetings.

wasted Somaliland taxpayers money.

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This is just the start... 

Africans are scared for themselves but once they get used to the idea, things will change. 

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1 hour ago, Suldaanka said:

This is just the start... 

Africans are scared for themselves but once they get used to the idea, things will change. 

Things will change, my foot!😁


 

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Wasiirka Arrimaha dibada ee dalka Gambia ayaa si adag u cambaareeyey xildhibaano doonayey inay u ololeeyaan ictiraafka...

Wasiirka Arrimaha dibada ee dalka Gambia ayaa si adag u cambaareeyey xildhibaano doonayey inay u ololeeyaan ictiraafka Somaliland, xildhibaanadaasi oo la sheegay inaysan waxna kala socon siyaasada iyo xaalada dalka Soomaaliya.

Somaliland oo in muddo ah baadi-goob aan lagu guuleysan ugu jirtay inay hesho hal dal oo ictiraafa ayaa muuqata inay xiligan bedashay qaabkii ay u wajihi jirtay ictiraaf raadinta iyadoo wakhtigan xooga saartay inay xiriir la sameyso siyaasiyiinta iyo xildhibaanada kasoo jeeda dalalka Galbeedka Afrika oo intooda badan aan wax xog ah u heyn xaalada Soomaaliya.

Sanadkii lasoo dhaafay ayey ahayd mar uu safar dalka Jamhuuriyadda Guinea ku tagay Madaxweynaha Somaliland Muse Biixi, isagoo sheegay inuu casumaad ka helay Madaxweynaha dalkaasi, walow aan saxaafada loo soo bandhigin kulankii ay wafdiga Somaliland sheegeen inay la yeesheen Madaxweynaha dalkaasi. Safarkan ayaa la sheegay inay kasoo shaqeeyeen ganacsato kasoo jeeda Somaliland.

Dalka Gambia oo isaguna ah dal aad u yar oo ku yaal galbeedka Afrika xaduudna laleh dhulka Senegal oo ku hareeraysan, ayaa waxaa muuqata inuu gaaray ololihii Somaliland ee ictiraaf-raadinta, dalkan ayaan sidoo kale ka fogeyn wadankii uu sanadkii hore booqday Muuse Biixi ee Guniea.

Dhowr xildhibaan oo ka  tirsan Golaha Wakiilada ayaa isku dayey inay Baarlamaanka dalkaasi horgeeyaan su’aalo ku aadan in dalkooda uu ictiraafo Somaliland, hase yeeshee waxaa su’aalahan soo afjaray Wasiirka Arrimaha Dibada ee dalkaasi Dr. Momodou Tangara.

Wasiir Tangara ayaa la yaab ku tilmaamay in xildhibaanadan oo aan wax xog ah u hayn xaalada dalka Soomaaliya ay faraha la galaan arrimo xasaasi ah oo uu sheegay inuu caalamka ka mideysan yahay.

…Marka u horeysa xildhibaanadiinan waa inaad soo akhrisataan taariikhda dalka Soomaliya, isla markaana booqataan warbaahinta ka hadasha xaalada Soomaaliya, intaydan faraha la gelin arrimo xasaasi ah oo aydan wax xog ah u hayn…” ayuu yiri Wasiirka Arrimaha Dibada Momodou Tangara oo ka jawaabayey su’aalaha Xildhibaanada.

Xildhibaanadan ay Somaliland xiriirka la sameysay ayaa ka tirsan Xisbiga [ United Democratic Party (UDP)] kuwaasi oo hada kahor sidan oo kale isku dayey inay u ololeeyaan ictiraafka dowlada Taiwan.

Wasiirka Arrimaha dibada ee Gambia ayaa xasuusiyey xildhibaanadan in ay hada kahor khatar usoo jiideen dalka Gambia kadib markii ay sidan oo kale u ololeeyeen ictiraafka dalka Taiwan, arrintaasi oo uu sheegay inay dalkooda gelisay go’adoon siyaasadeed.

“…Caalamka oo dhan iyo Midowga Afrika waxay aqoonsan yihiin oo kaliya hal dowlad oo Soomaaliya ka jirta waana Dowlada Federaalka Soomaaliya…” ayuu yiri Wasiirka oo talo kusiiyey Xildhibaanadan inay faraha kala baxaan hawshan sida ay baahiyeen warbaahinta dalkaasi.

Waxaa xusid muddan in safarkii sanadkii hore Muuse Biixi ku tagay Guinea lagu soo beegay sidan oo kale bisha Luulyo oo uu dalka Soomaaliya u dabaaldego Maalmaha xoriyada, xiligaasi oo sida muuqata Somaliland uga faa’iideysato in markale ay kiiskooda geeyaan dalalka Galbeedka Afrika oo intooda badan ku hadla luuqa Faransiiska kuwaasi  oo aan wax badan kala socon xaalada wadanka Soomaaliya.

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38 minutes ago, Suldaanka said:

The full sessions. It seems the whole parliament is with Somaliland vs the lone minister. 

 

Only in your warped imagination.

The Gambia will not recognize Marfashlland so quit wasting your time, saaxiib.

Maybe try the Cape Verde Islands next, or even better yet,  São Tomé and Príncipe. I’m sure you will find better luck in those even smaller African island nations.😂

I dare say,  if there’s one possible silver lining to Muuse Handaraab’s hapless desperation in  pursuing this new policy of bribing politicians in small obscure African nations, it is that the gullible folks back in Hargaysa Marfashes don’t know any better and will get to learn about the names and geography of exotic places on the map.
 

Muuse can then justly claim this obvious waste of money as a legitimate ministry of Education expense and thereby avoid getting stigmatized for having gone on a fool’s errand. 😆

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galbeedi   

Suldaanka,

whose idea was that?

Why Muuse and company losing the meagre resources for this fake propaganda?

  • Haha - That was funny. You made me laugh! 1

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Suldaanka,

The only way for Taiwan is to convince their fellow Chinese at least some. The Only way for Somaliland is to convince their fellow Somalis as it became the only way for Eritrea was to convince some Ethiopians.

Let alone Africa, look at Kosovo. Almost all major powers recognized it except Russia and China. Yet Russia alone has frozen this thing for years and now even some Europeans countries are changing their mind.

Unless you can convince a brother that "its bad to be constantly arguing, fighting, going backwards. so let us go our own ways and try separation" I do not see recognition to come especially from African countries.

Other way maybe that your diaspora can get some MPs in UK and other countries and some senator or congressman in US to take it as personal mission.



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3 minutes ago, Old_Observer said:

Suldaanka,

The only way for Taiwan is to convince their fellow Chinese at least some. The Only way for Somaliland is to convince their fellow Somalis as it became the only way for Eritrea was to convince some Ethiopians.

Let alone Africa, look at Kosovo. Almost all major powers recognized it except Russia and China. Yet Russia alone has frozen this thing for years and now even some Europeans countries are changing their mind.

Unless you can convince a brother that "its bad to be constantly arguing, fighting, going backwards. so let us go our own ways and try separation" I do not see recognition to come especially from African countries.

Other way maybe that your diaspora can get some MPs in UK and other countries and some senator or congressman in US to take it as personal mission.


 

Tigray, always promoting the breakup of the Somali family. As Trump would say, “you’re are bigly nasty!”

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5 hours ago, Tillamook said:

Tigray, always promoting the breakup of the Somali family. As Trump would say, “you’re are bigly nasty!”

When were we ever a "family"? When have we ever been anything but a collection of warring clans? Let's not blame others for what we have been doing to ourselves for centuries.

The idea that the Somali people were ever united is an imagined history. 

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7 hours ago, galbeedi said:

Suldaanka,

whose idea was that?

Why Muuse and company losing the meagre resources for this fake propaganda?

It is actually an investment. And like all investments, it can go either way.  But so far, it is worth it. 

6 hours ago, Old_Observer said:

Unless you can convince a brother that "its bad to be constantly arguing, fighting, going backwards. so let us go our own ways and try separation" I do not see recognition to come especially from African countries.

OO,

Somalia is no Russia nor China. It is a failed state. It is a joke to even be talking about Kosovo or Taiwan in the same sentence as Somalia. The situation is very different. 

Here, there is no state called Somalia. It is being put together by external forces. And because of that, to address the Somaliland issue, those external powers are afraid that all the effort and investiments of baby-sitting and diaper changing will be lost and the humpty-dumpty may fall apart.

That is the essentially what it is.

I am 110% confident that Somaliland will get its independence. The failed state of Somalia cannot stop it.

Some of the jokes that make the rounds here and there is that Villa AMISom can setup a State for Sool and Sanaag. It is a joke. But I think just to rest this case, Cheeseman should really listen to these voices and exclaim that state. Just so we can all see where it ends up. 

 

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1 hour ago, Timacaddeh said:

When were we ever a "family"? When have we ever been anything but a collection of warring clans? Let's not blame others for what we have been doing to ourselves for centuries.

The idea that the Somali people were ever united is an imagined history. 

Hey smart pants, what’s you definition of unity?

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10 hours ago, Tillamook said:

Hey smart pants, what’s you definition of unity?

I wasn't trying to be smart, this time 😁. I guess it just comes to natural to me 😁.

It was an honest question that I think is at the heart of a lot of our disagreements. In that vein, I'm going to be honest and admit that I don't have a codified definition of "unity" in mind. However, what I think is absolutely clear if we are being honest, is that the Somali people were rarely if ever "united" or a "family", by any stretch of the imagination.

I can only think of two examples where for brief periods, Somalis chose to be united outside of clan allegiances .

  1. The initial 1960 union and the few years after.
  2. The Ogaden war

Outside of those two times Somalis were always a disparate group of clans. We were never a "family", so no "family" would be broken up if any of us chose to be independent from another. Old man Aptidoon saw that, and chose a better path for Djibouti.

We Somalis struggle to agree on even the most basic facts. Everything I have stated is undeniable to any objective observer.

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