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Russia to send Equipment and Supplies to USA

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Some US officials are resisting. They would rather struggle themselves than being helped by Russia. Those forget history.

1. During the American independence war, It was the Russian Navy that stopped Britain at most critical time and place

2. During American civil war it was Russia that prevented Britain and France taking advantage of the civil war, to come back to their colonies even the ones sold.

 

From all that is considered European, Russia is most capable and most prepared and most organized at this time.

 

"Today, technical coordination was conducted, and preparations were underway to send an aircraft from Russia [to the US], which is expected to leave by the end of the day," Peskov said, adding that Russian President Vladimir Putin and his US counterpart, Donald Trump, discussed this assistance during their phone conversation on Monday.

The Kremlin spokesman noted that he had an impression that "some people from the US side were at least not contributing to urgently resolving technical problems for implementing the agreement of the two presidents".

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Oodweyne   

^^^^

Old_Observer,

Leaving aside the breathless propaganda of the old Soviet's apparatchik hand (like Mr Peskov in here) who are very much an "adept hand" of the Pravda's era kind of massive misinformation, I am not sure the Russian's State will be of any help in here to anyone. Particularly when this virus hit Russia hard. And it will hit her. For that have no doubt about that, my friend.

Of course, like China, they will close the air and they will closely monitor the nation's cyberspace as well as control the flow of information from every "hot-virus-spots" within Russia, so we will not get the true picture of it in here (just like Turkey).

And more to the point, they will simply stop doing a "massive testing" just to ensure the numbers will not look that bad in Russia. Which is what on the other hand the likes of Mr Trump knows he can't do it and therefore stop it happening since the US's federal system in the Yank's land will not allow him to stop each individual State to have the wherewithal to do test or carry out such test. Although, he can at least delay given them the test equipment.

So all told, once this deadly Virus start raging in the steps of Russia and the Volga River (say for example) as well as in Moscow city itself, I expect to hear different tune than this cockiness from the likes of Mr Putin and from his "cheap verbal artist" by the name of Mr Peskov, who is the spokesman of Mr Putin, who also never missed an opportunity to engage a "spot of misinformation" against the West at every given chance, even if the situation is about a dead or life issue, like right now. 

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20 minutes ago, Oodweyne said:

^^^^

Old_Observer,

Leaving aside the breathless propaganda of the old Soviet's apparatchik hand (like Mr Peskov in here) who are very much an "adept hand" of the Pravda's era kind of massive misinformation, I am not sure the Russian's State will be of any help in here to anyone. Particularly when this virus hit Russia hard. And it will hit her. For that have no doubt about that, my friend.

Of course, like China, they will close the air and they will closely monitor the nation's cyberspace as well as control the flow of information from every "hot-virus-spots" within Russia, so we will not get the true picture of it in here (just like Turkey).

And more to the point, they will simply stop doing a "massive testing" just to ensure the numbers will not look that bad in Russia. Which is what on the other hand the likes of Mr Trump knows he can't do it and therefore stop it happening since the US's federal system in the Yank's land will not allow him to stop each individual State to have the wherewithal to do test or carry out such test. Although, he can at least delay given them the test equipment.

So all told, once this deadly Virus start raging in the steps of Russia and the Volga River (say for example) as well as in Moscow city itself, I expect to hear different tune than this cockiness from the likes of Mr Putin and from his "cheap verbal artist" by the name of Mr Peskov, who is the spokesman of Mr Putin, who also never missed an opportunity to engage a "spot of misinformation" against the West at every given chance, even if the situation is about a dead or life issue, like right now. 

"Now, when the existing situation affects everyone, with no exception, and is of a global character, there is no alternative but to act together, in the spirit of partnership and mutual assistance", he said.

"It is important to note that, offering assistance to US colleagues, the president [Putin] assumes that when US producers of medical equipment and materials step up production, they will be capable of responding in kind, if needed", Peskov added.

 

That would be tongue in chick with what seems your outlook. Sorry that the UK is out of the game by combination of so many factors. The only success for UK may come at the destruction of EU, where UK can get some European countries to deal directly.

As for Russians and Turkish, they have one character that other societies lack. They can take pain, better than others.

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1 hour ago, Old_Observer said:

As for Russians and Turkish, they have one character that other societies lack. They can take pain, better than others.

Old_Observer,

True that, and they can take it even more pain than anyone can bare it other than the Chinese who know how to bare it a real pain more than any other nation in the world could possibly put up with it.

But I think the things that gets to me is the absurdity of the sight of seeing the likes of Russia's offering anyone any help without first securing a "pound of flesh" before it. Like the manner Putin had "helped" Syria to its merry destruction along the way.

Of course, I would not begrudge the likes of Mr Peskov his chance to "dance" at the side of the Tragedy of the current misgoverned US by the hand of Mr Trump, who had willfully defiled the US and had degraded her more than any other president could ever possibly have done it. And still, pretend, like the manner Mr Peskov is doing in here, as if he really cared for such a turn of fortune for the worse for the US.

All that I get it, since in this world of "Zero-Sum-Game" one's misfortune is really another's man's bright and lucky day (as it were). But, he - Mr Peskov - really need to pipe-down his mirthful open-mouth glee and his quite appropriate schadenfreude in which he is getting it from this situation.

For America under another political regime other than Mr Orangeman, would really have had no difficulty in managing this kind of situation. And beside the general presidential election is only few months away now before, hopefully, the largely sensible American's electorate will bring to an end this kind of "political dalliance" in which they have had with this baleful "Trump-ism" once and for all.

Well, that is the hope anyway. For I believe that Americans can now see how deadly and how matter of life and dearth really is actually "contingent-on" of who they do send to sit at the White-House, even for a brief period of four (4) years. 

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Russia doesn't have ventilators or other essential medical equipment to help anyone . 

 THey do not have testing kits or ventilators. Look at what they sent to Italy. It was basically a dozen trucks to disinfect and wash streets.

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3 hours ago, galbeedi said:

Russia doesn't have ventilators or other essential medical equipment to help anyone . 

 THey do not have testing kits or ventilators. Look at what they sent to Italy. It was basically a dozen trucks to disinfect and wash streets.

Do you know what help the Italians asked for?

You would have known it if you had given it some thought. Every Italian that came close to these buildings and streets was getting infected and mostly sick. These whole places were totally contaminated with everything even dead bodies that was assumed the virus would not survive on.

BTW Italy had strong communist party and even the days of soviets there was a lot of exchange between the two. LADA was FIAT to give you just one example. There is a monument to Russian sailors in memory of how they saved Italians during an earth quake in 1908.

As you know Berlisconi and Putin are close personal friends. Berlusconi is from the area where Russian help mostly went to.

 

 

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33 minutes ago, Old_Observer said:

BTW Italy had strong communist party and even the days of soviets there was a lot of exchange between the two. LADA was FIAT to give you just one example

Yes. Even in the eighties the Italian communist party was strong opposition. THey were not social democrats but real communists.

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