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The Simple Truth of Berbera's Airport, On Berbera Port, and On Ethiopia's Stake in it

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Oodweyne   

Here is the news and the truth of it all that will seriously disheartened all sniffling trolls, all cheap Ilma-Gummeed, who in turn usually waffled on endlessly in here of SOL

 

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Oodweyne   
3 hours ago, Suldaanka said:

The dogs will bark from the sidelines but the caravan moves on...

Haaheey, ain't that the simply truth in here. After all, they started from the get go along the lines of saying that Berberra port and its Airport will not be build. And when that was proven to be the cheap lie in which they were "comforting" themselves with it (which is what we knew all along) they have moved on to "new story" about how Mr Abby Ahmed will take his Ethiopia's share out of it. And to boot, they even have moved on to telling each other that the Airport was cancelled altogether by the UAE. When in fact they could easily find out that nothing was ever cancelled at all, but it was basically transferred its end use of it (when it gets to be completely build in this year) from Military use to basic civilian airport in support of the extended Berberra's port.

Hence, now having said all of that, I have no doubt about it that another day they will come up with yet another tall and tendentious fiction. Why? Because they are desperate for Somaliland to so fail, both economically and politically. And when they see that is not happening, then they tell each other, as usual, their seductive fictions about Somaliland. And in here the usual "Sheegato" who is obsessed with Ceel-Afweyn and the community who live there is their shameless leader in their "lies-weaving" agenda around in here. 

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galbeedi   

I don't think you guys got the massage. 

I understand that some people might wish the weakening of Berbera for political reasons, but most of us would welcome a resurgent and prosperous  Berbera that creates jobs for the local people and revenue for Somaliland to pay its police force and government services.

At the moment, Berbera is the lifeline of our people and we want it to prosper.

What people object is the auctioning of this major public asset like a junk for mere five million dollars. What the Kulmiye party done is nothing but the theft of public property for pennies to the dollar. 

When someone gives shares or equity in his public or private assets, he is expecting cash or equivalent assets for getting the shares. If Berbera port is a multi billion dollar asset and Somaliland gives UAE 59% of the equity, it must get hundreds of millions for this huge equity and the ownership of the majority of the sharesa.

The transaction that was expected was to build the 280 km Bebera-Wajaale corridor and other infrastructure in exchange for the shares. The same goes with Ethiopia. What did they gave Somaliland for taking 19% of the shares?. They must bring something to the table in exchange of the shares. Using the port is not an excuse to to be part of the Berbera port ownership. 

I do believe that the UAE just brought Ethiopia to sweeten the deal and steal Berbera port for pannies. How can  anyone lease the primary port of Somaliland for five million dollars a year?.

Furthermore, it is logical for Abiy and Ethiopia to court and bribe Sudan at this crucial time while the Nile river issue is at stake. For the last 25 years, Sudan always sided with Ethiopia on the issue of the nile river. In order to appease the Sudanese the Ethiopian preacher might propose equity in Sudanese ports and other carrots.

Everyone knows that until the issue of Somalia and Somaliland resolved no major players will risk putting huge assets in Somaliland . It is simple issue of unpredictability and markets do not like uncertainty.

We reject those who say the sky is falling in Somaliland, but we also see the reality on the ground.

 

 

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Give credit where credit is due. What do you know about Mogadishu' main port given to the Turkish misfit?  How long is the contract? what is even in the contract?  OK, may be MOgadishu is too much. Lets see what about Bosaso deal? Do you have anything to share? kkk :D

Thank goodness the people of Somaliland are so open and discuss everything so openly that you know so much about Berbera Port than those you so cheer lead for. That is very telling, don't you think so? Qiraaluhu waa gobonimo badhkeed!!! :D

We all know the only reason why the naysayers are against Berbera is pure and simply put 'they hate to see Berbera win'. That is as pure as evil as anyone can get. No amount of sugarcoating or trying to sell 'we want whats best for Berbera... Bullcrap!!!'. 

Yes, it is not the best of deals, and rightly so, with all the hate and leg pulling from the failed politicians and people of Somalia (Proper) as well as those from Somaliland such as yourself whose hearts & minds are filled anything but good. 

We think the Berbera deal is best under the current circumstances that Somaliland finds itself. 

Not all the projects in the Berbera Deal is started yet. This is 30 year deal and not everything gets started in the first years. But there are significant projects in the works as we speak including Berbera Free Zone, Berbera Solar Grid, Berbera Port, Berbera Corridor upgrade. 

49 minutes ago, galbeedi said:

Everyone knows that until the issue of Somalia and Somaliland resolved no major players will risk putting huge assets in Somaliland . It is simple issue of unpredictability and markets do not like uncertainty

If there is any political entity in the Horn that has been consistent in its politics and stablility, that is Somaliland. I know your yarstick that you use when measuring performance for Somaliland is different to lets say others *CHeeseman**. But who else can claim a good 20 years of democratic elections, peace and stability.  Mind you, no other country  in the Horn comes close the openness and competitiveness of Somaliland's democracy. 

 

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Oodweyne   

Suldaanka,

You beat me to it. Apparently, this cowardly Ina-Gummeed call Galbeedi who waffles on from cold Canada comes in here of SOL late at night in London's time where he then leaves his silly assertions before he runs off away from here, lest his feet gets to be held into fire if he were to found loitering around in here of SOL in any other time around the usual GMT hours, which is when I could take him to cleaners if he is to be found around here in any of that sensible hours (of the UK's time that is).

But apparently, you been in the Aussies's time or down-under's time, you can take him to the dry cleaner and make his argument so short work of it. Particularly when he comes in here in late UK's hours, which is what you just did with that argument of his.

Hence, I shan't add what you just said it in here. For that will be over-kill. And as a matter of fact, this cheap cowardly Ina-Gummeed, who is on the run from Awdal region of Somaliland doesn't deserve to be done-in with an over kill. For one "verbal bullet" of the kind you just have leveled against his argument will suffice for him. For he was already a coward on the run, anyway.

So I shall leave with your capable hand when it comes to this needed business of putting him down, as he solely deserved to be done-in in that way, which was what you did in here.  

However, having said all of that, I can't get over the womanly manner he all of a sudden tried proceed in here, which is when he tried to put on an air of "concern for others", or come across as such in here.

And that is when he tried his hand with such flimsy argument about how he is so concern about the welfare of Berberra's port or that of Somaliland. When we know for a fact on the other hand that the only reason he will be seen supporting anyone on this earth, at least politically, will be as soon as he ascertained that they are the real "enemies" of Somaliland.

And now he is trying, desperately, his silly line about caring for the "fiduciary aspect" of any of the "commercial deal" in which Somaliland on her part may have entered it with other "third party" (or parties). What a sham creature.  

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Not sure of UAE, but for Ethiopia is as follows:


1. Build a modern road (That can handle speed and wight) Accross Kililka with as much closeness to population centers failing that an area selected by engineers where new city can be established that can reach 1/4 to 1/2 Million in 2 years.

2. Take part in the construction and maintenance of Dry port

3. Take part in the construction/reconstruction of road work inside Somaliland until border

4. Provide security assistance as as needed, determined and requested by Somaliland

5. Guarantee business to the port 15% start and the percentage grows with Ethiopia's import export growth.

6. Incorporate a company whose shares are held by the state minimum 60% to manage all the above on behaf of Ethiopia. If there is an agreement to incorporate by the 3 parties, then this public corporation of Ethiopia is the one that becomes holder of the share with DP World and Somaliland (will have to incorporate a public co. by that stage).


galbeedi,

This is hundreds of millions of dollars right of the bat and millions more every year into a century. Both Ethiopia and Djibouti have invested about 5 billion each to develop the infrastructure for 3 ports, 2 dry ports, highway, railways, electricity, water.....which is also applicable to Somaliland in the future. If the original plan succeeds in Ethiopia, Somaliland and probably Puntland could be interconnected for electricity.


Somaliland was aware that upto 20% of Ethiopian export/import will not create conflict with any one. Djibouti is always guaranteed 65% and first right of choice on the rest upto 85%.

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Oodweyne   

Old_Observer,

Don't worry about our Galbeedi, he really knows all these economical inter-connectedness. He also knows the "basic rent" of the Berberra's port is really small changes in comparison to the enormous wealth (on a yearly basis) in which an upgraded port to an international standard can bring forth to Somaliland.

This in turn will be what Berberra can do when it's completely finishes. However, his deep desire to see Somaliland in a economical dire situation is paramount to him.

For he wants that since lamentably for some reason he thinks that a poor and economically dire Somaliland can be persuaded to give it a go, once again, his wretched political unionism. He therefore thinks people of Somaliland are likely to "exchange" their current independence and national's freedom for some kind of a "lucrative political unionism" with Somalia (if it could be arranged from Mogadishu). Which means he deeply believes that the place needs to be kept in an "economically isolated" situation and in a "politically lock-down" kind of reality from the rest of the world for his political unionism plan for Somaliland to succeed on the ground.

That was the reason he lost and did so in so open and glaring of a way, all sense, all rationality and even his basic dignity, as soon as he saw with his own eyes that Somaliland, even without legal recognition, has somehow managed to win a large investment (to the tune of 440 millions of dollars for its port). Which was to boot, an investment that was even higher than what up to date Somalia with all of its legal recognition of its statehood and that of its government, was able to win it so far due to the deep and "pervasive insecurity" that is prevailing in Somalia. This is really what is bothering him. 

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Oodweyne   

Hello Folks,

Now here is the Berbera Airport that being build and now it's finally ready to be re-opened soon by President Bihi.

I wonder therefore what the cheap nay-sayers of SOL will say now or will at least be saying for themselves in the light of this reality? Of course, they will pretend as if they never said anything about Berbera Airport in the first place.

Or even better, they will pretend as if all of their previous argument that used to alleged that Berberra Airport will not be built by UAE, was something they meant it as a some kind of a basic lark or as laugh, and therefore it was not meant to be taking seriously by anyone.

And this, of course, will be a similar thing to what had occurred when they had realized the Berberra's port was being built in right in front of their eyes to their collective surprises, although they thought it was never going to be build. And when that happened and they realized that they were deeply mistaken in their argument, they simply, like the collection of a political opportunists that they are, have decided to keep quiet about all of their previous arguments in-terms of how Berberra port will not be built at all by anyone without the say so of Somalia's Villa Somalia. 

Hence, now, of course, I am looking forward to hear from the silly idiots like Mr Galbeedi, Maakhir1, and of course, not to forget, I am also looking forward to hear from the likes of that tosser or that self-loving-ninny by the name of Mr Dahireeto, who especially swore on everything he hold dear in right here of SOL in-terms of how Berberra Airport will not be build at all in this current reality by the UAE without the say so of Villa Somalia. 

 

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Oodweyne   

So, I see the guys who said that Berberra's Airport will not be build are now all quite about it, particularly when it's proven to their faces of how wrong they were. Or, perhaps, they are hiding to show their faces in here in this thread. Typical.

Guys I told you before, and I have told you many times, which was that if you take a bet (for whatever reason) against Somaliland and her destiny, then you better have the manly balls to stand by with your bet. But apparently it seems now that some of you have no freaking idea of what on earth you lot were actually talking back then when this issue of Berberra's Airport gets going in 2018 other than to just talk through your collective backsides, as usual. Let this be a future lesson to your kind of absurdly waffling ilk with their daily political acts of a contemptible sort. 

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There is a good possibility, highly likely, that Djibouti may take UAE share in Berbera.

As it is Djibouti is very happy about Berbera. The most Berbera will handle from Ethiopian business for next decade is 20%. Let alone from the growth, even if Berbera took from existing levels, Djibouti still does not loose anything.

Actually Djibouti would get relief, less headache, less pressure and good use of capacity, like 60 to 80 percent.

Then Djibouti can be looking to invest in Kenya, Smaliland, the rest of Somali ports and even Sudan and Tanzania..slowly all Africa, since the plan is Djibouti to become like DP World..etc.

 

Berbera is a good GO from any angle.

The only one that can fail it is Somaliland corruption or infighting that can screw up the timing.

 

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