Duufaan

Why FARMAAJO was allowed to visit Hargeysa in first place?

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Duufaan   

Lot of people including me, were surprised when they heard Farmaajo is going to Hargeysa with Abiya. We know the hardcore landers respect Ethiopian leaders, historical calling them brothers and obey their orders in great extent unlike any other Somali group . For other Somalia groups in general, Ethiopia relationship are  always temporarily benefits against other somalia group that applies Farmaajo too. You will not be surprised if you see Farmaajo singing different song any time it benefited him.

It is clear that Abiya is more welcome in Hargeysa than any other Somali leader at moment or forever. They value his relationship religiously close and accepted when initially he told them that he will bring him with Farmaajo.

Other thing is that Habro tribes have been disoriented lately, basically competing also any benefit that comes from Moqdisho, like other tribes in Somalia. Muse camp is worried that the other groups has been moqdisho before them and worried losing some future benefits. Muuse decision to accept Farmaajo in Hargeys was partially, he wanted to make deal with Farmaajo first but his somaliland is not ready for it now.

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gooni   

Absolutely that is the facts.

Fasting three consecutive years is not easy job for the landers.

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Oodweyne   

Duufaan,

I know that you are exceptionally desperately nowadays to justify why your hero, Mr Cheeseman, moved from what you had hoped for, which was for him to crash Somaliland, to a mere beggar for a visit to Hargeisa and even doing such begging through the Ethiopian's PM, Mr Abby Ahmed, and therefore you grasping any straws of any sort in which you can find. But to bring this Khaatumonews as a reference of your story is really is bad case of delusion for you.

And I say that since for you to bandy about the likes of Mr Ahmed Laari (the owner of this website in which you are quoting) and the fiction he peddles daily in his website as a "reputable story", is laughable in the extreme.

So, please, nigger, see to it to bring more credible than this kind of cheap fiction. Or at least bring story that has a proper citation than what Khaatumonews is cheaply alleging in here. Got it, my dear hapless ninny?  

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Dhaqaale   

Abdillahi Yusuf Warned them 13 years ago in 2007. 0:24 mark till 0:44 mark. He even mentions certain clans which are welcoming to the idea of a SL being a federal member.

But the important point was how he said 'your rushed to secession' you didn't think it over critically and now your bloody going around forcing Awdal-SSC regions to join you in your madness. It was shit fest that started with bad 'talo' and that bad talo lead to successive bad mistakes and isolation and now their stuck in this hole they can't get out of by telling they're people there is recognition coming yet they deep down know it's not coming. 

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10 minutes ago, Dhaqaale said:

Abdillahi Yusuf Warned them 13 years ago in 2007. 0:24 mark till 0:44 mark. He even mentions certain clans which are welcoming to the idea of a SL being a federal member.

But the important point was how he said 'your rushed to secession' you didn't think it over critically and now your bloody going around forcing Awdal-SSC regions to join you in your madness. It was shit fest that started with bad 'talo' and that bad talo lead to successive bad mistakes and isolation and now their stuck in this hole they can't get out of by telling they're people there is recognition coming yet they deep down know it's not coming. 

Allahha u naxariisto labadoodaba. 

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Oodweyne   
8 hours ago, Dhaqaale said:

But the important point was how he said 'your rushed to secession' you didn't think it over critically and now your bloody going around forcing Awdal-SSC regions to join you in your madness. It was shit fest that started with bad 'talo' and that bad talo lead to successive bad mistakes and isolation and now their stuck in this hole they can't get out of by telling they're people there is recognition coming yet they deep down know it's not coming.

That you would quote a man who thought he would amount to something on the back of "borrowed muscle" from Ethiopia, which is what he did when he rode to Mogadishu on the back of Ethiopian's tanks when he had arrived there in 2006, and was even subsequently guarded by them till he was told to leave by the Americans in 2008, tells me all I need to know in-terms of how much credibility I should attached to what you say, especially since you are using his argument as a reference or as "clincher" of your points.

Hence, that won't do, dear ninny. For if ever there was a "bad talo", in which anyone can be accused of in having it in here, one could say that the very idea of thinking that one can rule Somalis with nothing more than a "borrowed muscle" from Ethiopia (of all people) should really be up there in the league of the most freaking "worst form of bad Talo", in which one could ever be part of it. Or it could ever be heard of it being offered to others. 

But that just me who is determined to examined, both, the "sense of the argument" on one hand, and the "credibility" of those who are offering their "two-penny-worth-of-advise". on the other hand 

And in terms of Somaliland doing anything to which to reproach itself, I say it's contrary, really. For it's contrary since, ever since 1991, we have gained from strength to strength, particularly if you compare what bile of destroyed cities we were back in 1991, and then compare it to what we have build for ourselves, from the ground up, whilst at the same time, we even have to contend with in the meantime without a legal recognition of our Somaliland's State. 

And in here, I can easily give you an example of what my argument is detailing. And that is, for instance, when allegedly the late Col. Yey was offering his "silly advise" on that video, back in 2007, Somaliland didn't even control Las-Anod (LA), much less said about whole of Sool region. And now we are few kilometers away from our border in Yoocado in Sool region. And to boot, for all practical purposes, the whole of Sool region is in our political hands as of now.

Hence, you can see now how the talk of Col. Yey being correct about anything to do with Somaliland and her prospect is laughable in the extreme, particularly if only you view things in-terns of what took place or what had transpired for Somaliland ever since he had offered, allegedly, that silly advise of his back in 2007. And more to the point, you can see how wrong he was in "estimating" or "viewing" the strength and the staying power of our political cause. Which is a political decision in which we have set it out from the get-go back in 1991.  And there is no turning back on it.

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10 hours ago, Duufaan said:
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Lot of people including me, were surprised when they heard Farmaajo is going to Hargeysa with Abiya. We know the hardcore landers respect Ethiopian leaders, historical calling them brothers and obey their orders in great extent unlike any other Somali group .

 

 

This has become legend or is so taken for truth from so much repetition.

Nothing is further from Truth. Next to Djibouti Somaliland is actually the most Somali when it comes to Ethiopia.

So much false information we carry.

Example: USC folks are considered most anti-Ethiopia. I always laugh when I hear almost all people peddling this lie.

Among the rebel organizations USC was so close to Mengistu, Ethiopia paid its own money, sent two officials to bring Aidiid from India to lead USC. The only purpose was to counter balance against Somaliland, since SSDF was suspect as Mengistu had information of their contacts with WSLF/ONLF and Tigray.

 

Who called Ethiopia after 91 to Somalia. The person was General Morgan the group take your pick. Ethiopia did not vanguish Aidiid from SW since they were Mengistu people, vanguished them after they and their opponents burned food storage. That was the incident as to why Ethiopia evicted Aidiid and the other groups (no fighting left themselves).

What did the warlords in Mugadishu do when ICU started. They set up anti-terrorist alliance. Who did they call first. Ethiopia.

Meles was never close with Somaliland other than business and education for Somalilanders in Ethiopia.

 

ONLF: Djibouti, Somaliland and Puntland told ONLF that they cannot use as base to fight against Ethiopia. Somaliland gave them 6 months. Djibouti and Puntland wanted ONLF to stop using them as base immediately. Anyone can confirm this with ONLF leadership of the time.

etc..

The truth or facts show the opposite of the false belief most people have.

 

 

 

 

 

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