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galbeedi   

with the reported UAE organizing meetings for oligarchs in Nairobi,  a low intensity war had been declared between Farmaajo and the regional opposition. Since the Mogadishu opposition is weakened, the three remaining leaders ( Muuse, DEni and Madoobe) are coordinating to fend off and survive. 

As we speak Deni and Muuse are coordinating their policies in Sool and Sanaag. Hawshu waa Tukaraq waan kuu daayee, adna Sanaag Bari iyo Badhan ha igu shidayn.

They are headquartered in Nairobi, No Somali leader should tolerate a regional government trying to establish a foreign policy that is diametrically opposed to the national government. 

 

Wanka Madow ee Jubbada jooga haddi laga takhaluso, Deni hurdo iyo seexaad wuu joojin. If we eliminate the big fish, C/laahi Deni  jumping around the little pound, the chess table could by moving to Sanaag, the east and more.

If they disturb the election schedule , then two more years will be added. Who would thought a reclusive and reserved kid from Ansaalooti could be the catalyst who saved the disenfranchised nomads.

Allah hau Naxariisto Mohamed Mooge. Waan soo socdaa Kow dheh:

 


 

 

 

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galbeedi   

OOdweyne, 

This is 21sr century.

Wuu dhamaaday wakhtigii dagaal la isku muquunin jiray. Calanka bullugu inta uusan Awdal iman waa in uu ku soo Horeeya Hargeisa Cadey iyo beertii xoriyada. Malaha beertii xoriyadana Mayor Solteco ayaa iibiyey oo gurya ka dhisay. 

Hargeisa iyo Awdal meel isku mida ayey mari doonaan. Miyaadan ogeyn in aad xagaa iyo Bariga iga xigtid. 

We will all negotiate and get a fair deal for Somaliland, then we will all be brothers again.

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galbeedi   

In 1960 when the blue flag was raised in Hargeisa at midnight, there was little drizzle of rain. People were huddling together both men and women. 

in the subsequent flowing years, when someone felt anxiety of depressed ,m people used to say, " Waar way bugtaaye bandhiga beerta xoriyada geeya"

The people are the same. We crossed many mountains and rivers like mist nations do. People fall in their lifetime rise. Why we Somalis refuse ro rise and take our place among free nations of the world.

We are nomads by nature. We can not be quarantined or caged in small enclave. I was born in deep West of the republic , yet I am thriving in continental North America. A gas station in my neighborhood has more revenue than Borama city.

Major wars took place between the nations and even among people residing in their own nations. They forget the past and move on. 

 

 

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galbeedi   
9 minutes ago, Oodweyne said:

So keep at it. It sure as hell will make your eternal exile from Awdal that much more liveable condition to put up with. 

Who says I can not visit Awdal and Hargeisa my favourite places?

Malaga yaabaa in aan adiga ku xidho. I even know a certain police chief in Hargeisa, and might ask for your arrest. In fact, the last time I visited there , i did not even went through the immigration. My passport was stamped, paid the visa and left through the VIP.,

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Apophis   
4 hours ago, Oodweyne said:

^^^

Mayee Apophis, waa nin is hubo oo og in uu noolaan karo isaga oo aan cid kale "xiniinyo-amaaahis" u doonan.

Taas "amaah-raadiska-ahina" waa mid heysata inta adiga oo kale ah. Oo dantu ay ku kaliftey in uu "Awr-Kiraale kabaha qaada" ka noqdo Villa Somalia. Mar haddii aanu isku hubin in uu "mabda'iisa union-ka" ah xoog iyo xiniinyo kaga fal galin karo gobolkiisii Awdal ahaa.

Oo dabadeedna sidaas at dantu ugu xidhay in uu Ina-Farmaajo uu ka sugo in uu Adwal uga xoreeyo Somaliland. Ma garatey, saaxiib?  

Anyone with a little intellect and an ability to read knows “Somalia” is a 1950s invention i.e an idea to politically “unite” Somalis who upto that point in their history have never been united politically.

Afwyne crippled it and now it looks like his bastard child is destroying the rest. 
 

And if that is the case, we are not afraid to say everyone should go their own way.

which is a nightmare for suckerfish like Galbedi. 

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Apophis   
4 hours ago, galbeedi said:

The people of Puntland are more pro union than even those in Mogadishu.

The sky is clear now. The chief campaign organizer of Shariif Ahmed in Nairobi is calling  for the destruction of Somalia. Folks, be careful about the so called Sheikh and his backers.

Ninkani goof yar oo Jubbada ku yaalla haddii uu reerkiisu maamuli , Soomaalidu ha dunto ayuu leeyahay. Waar dadkani waa gooni goosato shaadh kale inoo soo xidhatay. Wallee ninkii Daahireeto run buu sheegay matkuu yidhi Apophis waa gooni goosato sawaahiliga la degta.

I don’t like to waste a lot of words on you but you are like the that fish which cannot survive without a shark (oodweyne). Marka ninyahow xishow and don’t badmouth your benefactors so whilly nilly.

 

 

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Apophis   
3 hours ago, galbeedi said:

Who says I can not visit Awdal and Hargeisa my favourite places?

Malaga yaabaa in aan adiga ku xidho. I even know a certain police chief in Hargeisa, and might ask for your arrest. In fact, the last time I visited there , i did not even went through the immigration. My passport was stamped, paid the visa and left through the VIP.,


You cannot and you have not visited those places and we know why. Like all killers and criminals you are afraid to places no doubt you commit heinous acts under orders from Afweyne.

We know you were a hapless conscript (and you admitted as much in another post) and who knows what crimes you committed to exile yourself to frigid Canadian wastelands.

@Oodweyne

I hope the Somaliland justice system deals with potential war criminals like Galbedi swiftly humanely should he set foot in the republic.

Something which afweyne’s victims never recieved.

 

 

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galbeedi   
8 minutes ago, Apophis said:

and who knows what crimes you committed to exile yourself to frigid Canadian wasteland

Apophis ,

Let alone blood or other crimes, I never wronged another Somali and neven consumed an illegal dollar in my life .

Weligay qof Somaliya kuma dulmin dalkii hooyo, shillin xaaran ahna ma cunin.

I am and always was a law abiding citizen. 

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Apophis   
1 hour ago, galbeedi said:

Apophis ,

Let alone blood or other crimes, I never wronged another Somali and neven consumed an illegal dollar in my life .

Weligay qof Somaliya kuma dulmin dalkii hooyo, shillin xaaran ahna ma cunin.

I am and always was a law abiding citizen. 

You admitted to being conscripted in 1988. No way you are innocent.

Show us your records.

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biyo-cad   

 

I agree we need to let the pirates go free and create their own homeland.  Somalia had only one chance and a dictator by the name of Afweyne killed that dream.

 


 

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On 2/8/2020 at 6:27 PM, maakhiri1 said:

It maybe to new to some now, but PL has always being playing a game, but they were always closet secessionist 

NIMANKU SL waxba kama sokeeyaan.

Munaafaqadda waa lagu ogaa. But the days when One leg in, one leg out used to get them the best of both world is coming to an end. 

 

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Of relevance to the topic, Faisal Roobleh, formerly a staunch opponent of Somaliland and man who used to attend every gathering or conference that somehow is anti-Somaliland in nature, has been changing his tune as of late. This is his latest posts. 

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The question still remains whether federal member states learn lessons from Somaliland on confidence, having clear goals and objectives, and relying more on the wisdom of their people than IC officers in Nairobi and Addis Ababa.

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Federal Member States: Lessons to be learned from Somaliland

Somalia, as it exists today, is a geographic expression with three layers of mini-states: (1) Somaliland, (2) Puntland and Jubbaland, and (3) Hirshabelle, Southwest, and Galmudug.

These three layers are at different stages in state formation and deal with both Villa Somalia and the outside world accordingly.

Somaliland is a class by itself. Most Western journalists treat it as an independent country. Ethiopia and Djibouti do so although under the cover of trade cooperation. Donor countries also recognize that Somaliland has secured peace, a modicum of state stability, and a heightened self or national confidence and cohesion that needn't be disrupted.

The 2012-2016 compact (a phantom new deal), now a relic document collecting dust in a shelf inside Villa Somalia, treated Somaliland as a separate entity from the rest of Somalia. It was inadvertently a de facto recognition of Somaliland by both Villa Somalia and the International Community. Farmajo, therefore, must not disturb Somaliland, maintains the IC, or else his aid will suffer.

The second category is a loose association consisting of Puntland and Jubbaland. Until recently, Puntland was treated by Villa Somalia as a strong pillar in keeping the federal system together. However, due to devious politicians from that region, the hard work done towards federalism since the end of the Somalia civil war is largely compromised.

The root cause of this is Puntland's own intricate clan system that is highly politicized. Each and every politician from Puntland (be a parliamentarian, a minister, or even civil society leaders) highly utilize clan and sub-clan politics for political offices.

One of the major problems President Said Deni is facing is not Villa Somali being strong, but rather clan political peddlers, especially those ministers close to Villa Somalia, weaponzing sub-clan politics. In the last three years, Villa Somalia’s vicious politics of division has proliferated Puntland to a point where it created discordant conditions.

As to Jubbaland, it has never been given time to complete federal member state formation. Early in its infancy, it was at war with Hassan Sheikh's administration. We recall Abdullahi Godah's bravado and his provocative statements when he was interior minister.

Following a respite and a short-lived stability, thanks to the administration of Hassan Sheikh Mohamoud's final awakening to endorse collaboration than confrontation, Farmajo came to office in 2017 with venom and political, some say, clan vendetta against Ahmed Madobe. Facts are now emerging that he even tried to kidnap Ahmed Modobe while he was on a business visit to Mogadishu.

Jubbaland is today anything but stable, and the state formation process is severely hampered. As a matter of fact, it is on the verge of war with Villa Somalia as Farmajo manipulates military might and the mischief of clan politics. By sawing hyperbolic clan sentiment in Gado, the region is on the verge of military conflict.

The third group is nothing but an extension of Villa Somalia. Leaders in this group have voluntarily given up their constitutional rights and legitimate roles that are guaranteed to states. They seem to be comfortable to exist under the shadow of Villa Somalia as long as their positions are protected by Farmajo.

The trio region is weak in governance and seems to enjoy less credibility with the people they claim to represent but pride over the cozy relationship they enjoy with Villa Somalia.

Concluding Remarks

1. Puntland must reassert itself even if it emulates Somaliland by calling for a full autonomy short of secession and continue the course until Villa Somalia comes to the table for a serious deliberation around the draft constitution. If it cannot do that, it may as well join hands with group three.

One of the successful attributes of why the leaders of Somaliland seem strong is that they rely more on the support of their people and most of the time ignore donor sentiments when it comes to state formation and politics. And that is the right way to govern your people. Whether Puntland can learn such a lesson from its neighbor remains to be seen.

2. Jubbaland has shown a meek face in a time of adversity. One serious problem with Jubbaland is its over-consciousness of what the donor community (USA and EU missions) would say if Ahmed Madobe asserts himself. Such psychology led to the erosion of Ahmed Madobe's confidence in his people and in the cause for which he says he stands. Guaranteed Jubbaland is complex and the clan relationship is more precarious here. However, Ahmed Madobe can't watch things deteriorate and always give in to what the donor community says while Mohamed Farmajo amasses troops in Gedo.

He better assert himself in the face a brewing invasion. Until now, Farmajo has been waging a psychological war and Soviet-style propaganda against Jubbaland. Now, it seems he wants to declare war! And Ahmed Madobe's side has been awfully silent because of fear of what the donors would say! If such a silence continues, the governed in Jubbaland will also lose confidence in its leadership. Delay is death!

3. The third group does not need any recommendation. President Ware was the first of the pack Farmajo successfully tamed. In October 2017, he was a focal advocate for federal member states’ rights and roles. He emerged as the spokesperson for the states following a conference in Kismanyo. Upon his return, though, Farmajo so severely punished him by stopping about $400,000 promised for institutional building. I was with him at Halane Camp in Mogadishu, when President Ware received a scornful call from the Deputy Minister for Finance and told him the “he was not getting the money.” Mr. Ware almost fainted then abruptly left the meeting. From that day one, he became an obedient soldier of Farmajo’s. The other two have followed suit.

The question still remains whether federal member states learn lessons from Somaliland on confidence, having clear goals and objectives, and relying more on the wisdom of their people than IC officers in Nairobi and Addis Ababa.

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Apophis   
44 minutes ago, Suldaanka said:

Of relevance to the topic, Faisal Roobleh, formerly a staunch opponent of Somaliland and man who used to attend every gathering or conference that somehow is anti-Somaliland in nature, has been changing his tune as of late. This is his latest posts. 

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Federal Member States: Lessons to be learned from Somaliland

Somalia, as it exists today, is a geographic expression with three layers of mini-states: (1) Somaliland, (2) Puntland and Jubbaland, and (3) Hirshabelle, Southwest, and Galmudug.

These three layers are at different stages in state formation and deal with both Villa Somalia and the outside world accordingly.

Somaliland is a class by itself. Most Western journalists treat it as an independent country. Ethiopia and Djibouti do so although under the cover of trade cooperation. Donor countries also recognize that Somaliland has secured peace, a modicum of state stability, and a heightened self or national confidence and cohesion that needn't be disrupted.

The 2012-2016 compact (a phantom new deal), now a relic document collecting dust in a shelf inside Villa Somalia, treated Somaliland as a separate entity from the rest of Somalia. It was inadvertently a de facto recognition of Somaliland by both Villa Somalia and the International Community. Farmajo, therefore, must not disturb Somaliland, maintains the IC, or else his aid will suffer.

The second category is a loose association consisting of Puntland and Jubbaland. Until recently, Puntland was treated by Villa Somalia as a strong pillar in keeping the federal system together. However, due to devious politicians from that region, the hard work done towards federalism since the end of the Somalia civil war is largely compromised.

The root cause of this is Puntland's own intricate clan system that is highly politicized. Each and every politician from Puntland (be a parliamentarian, a minister, or even civil society leaders) highly utilize clan and sub-clan politics for political offices.

One of the major problems President Said Deni is facing is not Villa Somali being strong, but rather clan political peddlers, especially those ministers close to Villa Somalia, weaponzing sub-clan politics. In the last three years, Villa Somalia’s vicious politics of division has proliferated Puntland to a point where it created discordant conditions.

As to Jubbaland, it has never been given time to complete federal member state formation. Early in its infancy, it was at war with Hassan Sheikh's administration. We recall Abdullahi Godah's bravado and his provocative statements when he was interior minister.

Following a respite and a short-lived stability, thanks to the administration of Hassan Sheikh Mohamoud's final awakening to endorse collaboration than confrontation, Farmajo came to office in 2017 with venom and political, some say, clan vendetta against Ahmed Madobe. Facts are now emerging that he even tried to kidnap Ahmed Modobe while he was on a business visit to Mogadishu.

Jubbaland is today anything but stable, and the state formation process is severely hampered. As a matter of fact, it is on the verge of war with Villa Somalia as Farmajo manipulates military might and the mischief of clan politics. By sawing hyperbolic clan sentiment in Gado, the region is on the verge of military conflict.

The third group is nothing but an extension of Villa Somalia. Leaders in this group have voluntarily given up their constitutional rights and legitimate roles that are guaranteed to states. They seem to be comfortable to exist under the shadow of Villa Somalia as long as their positions are protected by Farmajo.

The trio region is weak in governance and seems to enjoy less credibility with the people they claim to represent but pride over the cozy relationship they enjoy with Villa Somalia.

Concluding Remarks

1. Puntland must reassert itself even if it emulates Somaliland by calling for a full autonomy short of secession and continue the course until Villa Somalia comes to the table for a serious deliberation around the draft constitution. If it cannot do that, it may as well join hands with group three.

One of the successful attributes of why the leaders of Somaliland seem strong is that they rely more on the support of their people and most of the time ignore donor sentiments when it comes to state formation and politics. And that is the right way to govern your people. Whether Puntland can learn such a lesson from its neighbor remains to be seen.

2. Jubbaland has shown a meek face in a time of adversity. One serious problem with Jubbaland is its over-consciousness of what the donor community (USA and EU missions) would say if Ahmed Madobe asserts himself. Such psychology led to the erosion of Ahmed Madobe's confidence in his people and in the cause for which he says he stands. Guaranteed Jubbaland is complex and the clan relationship is more precarious here. However, Ahmed Madobe can't watch things deteriorate and always give in to what the donor community says while Mohamed Farmajo amasses troops in Gedo.

He better assert himself in the face a brewing invasion. Until now, Farmajo has been waging a psychological war and Soviet-style propaganda against Jubbaland. Now, it seems he wants to declare war! And Ahmed Madobe's side has been awfully silent because of fear of what the donors would say! If such a silence continues, the governed in Jubbaland will also lose confidence in its leadership. Delay is death!

3. The third group does not need any recommendation. President Ware was the first of the pack Farmajo successfully tamed. In October 2017, he was a focal advocate for federal member states’ rights and roles. He emerged as the spokesperson for the states following a conference in Kismanyo. Upon his return, though, Farmajo so severely punished him by stopping about $400,000 promised for institutional building. I was with him at Halane Camp in Mogadishu, when President Ware received a scornful call from the Deputy Minister for Finance and told him the “he was not getting the money.” Mr. Ware almost fainted then abruptly left the meeting. From that day one, he became an obedient soldier of Farmajo’s. The other two have followed suit.

The question still remains whether federal member states learn lessons from Somaliland on confidence, having clear goals and objectives, and relying more on the wisdom of their people than IC officers in Nairobi and Addis Ababa.

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I totally agree with this. The era of forcing “ a union” for the benefits of the “yar yars” is over.

No minority clan will ever again use State power to subjugate the larger clans.

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