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galbeedi   
57 minutes ago, maakhiri1 said:

Religion is just a pretext 

The Wahabi sect had mostly facilitated the extra judicial killing of people which is forbidden under Islamic rule. No religion will allow bombing of markets or killing of the innocent civilians. 

There is doubt that today, Al-Shabaab is mostly criminal mafia  used to kill, extort and take ransom for the innocent. unemployed criminals used as mules to kill. The best we could do is cut the financial intensive and the means they earn the money.

Why would the telecom business is operating Al-Shabaab ruled area. Like any nation who is battling terrorists, you must cut off  the phone and access through local Xawaala and other means. Ceelasha Biyaha, the main Al-Shabaab business center could be cordoned and every Bakhaar searched if there ever was any trace of receipt or Shabaab connection. While searches are underway cut the telephone and the internet from the whole region.  With quick messages no one can catch anyone with red handed. We have seen many stories where people were sent to Ceelasha Biyaha to pay the ransom.

The issues is what are we doing differently since 2012? start random searches of suspected homes in the middle of the night , of course telephone must be  down, and build huge makeshift jail to sort out the bad guys, and take your time. As usual , certain segment will raise hell and demand the release of these guys, but consider that music to the ear. There are some successful Somali intelligence groups in some  of the regions. The Puntland PIS is highly successful force against the insurgents. Their main encouragement is huge salary intensive from the Americans. Pay your   frontline men more than what the useless member of parliament takes.

If there is a will there is a way.

Oh, one more thing. Control the movements of foreign intelligence and any force within the country. They should not venture to the city or anywhere without Somali military and intelligence escort.

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4 hours ago, galbeedi said:

The Wahabi sect had mostly facilitated the extra judicial killing of people which is forbidden under Islamic rule. No religion will allow bombing of markets or killing of the innocent civilians. 

There is doubt that today, Al-Shabaab is mostly criminal mafia  used to kill, extort and take ransom for the innocent. unemployed criminals used as mules to kill. The best we could do is cut the financial intensive and the means they earn the money.

Why would the telecom business is operating Al-Shabaab ruled area. Like any nation who is battling terrorists, you must cut off  the phone and access through local Xawaala and other means. Ceelasha Biyaha, the main Al-Shabaab business center could be cordoned and every Bakhaar searched if there ever was any trace of receipt or Shabaab connection. While searches are underway cut the telephone and the internet from the whole region.  With quick messages no one can catch anyone with red handed. We have seen many stories where people were sent to Ceelasha Biyaha to pay the ransom.

The issues is what are we doing differently since 2012? start random searches of suspected homes in the middle of the night , of course telephone must be  down, and build huge makeshift jail to sort out the bad guys, and take your time. As usual , certain segment will raise hell and demand the release of these guys, but consider that music to the ear. There are some successful Somali intelligence groups in some  of the regions. The Puntland PIS is highly successful force against the insurgents. Their main encouragement is huge salary intensive from the Americans. Pay your   frontline men more than what the useless member of parliament takes.

If there is a will there is a way.

Oh, one more thing. Control the movements of foreign intelligence and any force within the country. They should not venture to the city or anywhere without Somali military and intelligence escort.

Walaahi Somalis are not ready,  for multiple reasons, PIS is successful because it is not managed by SOMALIS.

The only people who can defeat this, is someone as sophisticated as them, for example, even if you reduce corruption and increase salary, the soldiers you pay have families?  are they safe, are their families safe? the answer is no. Once you have public servants,soldiers, police,  living among the people, in the middle of the night, they came to you with gun point, and give you ultimatum, do what we want you to do, or we kill you or your families.

They extort everyone, who refuse, is either dead, or runaway. 

No one is safe.

The answer could be locate families everyone working for the government in gated, secure safe areas, and make sure they never bring their families to like Mogadishu, till this cancer is eradicated.

There was a highly level gov employee whose son collaborated and helped  these guys, because they had access to him, and forced him.

 

 

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They are decent folks who refused to pay lacagtaan baadka ah ee argagaxisada ku nool. These decent folks, among others, were the owners of hoteel Maka Almakurama and Aljasiira. And their hotels were repeatedly targeted.

The biggest culprits who pay without a question waa Hormuud iyo Dahabshiib. They pay millions of dollars a year. They also readily give out any private info of their customers to argagaxisada, if they are asked.

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galbeedi   
5 hours ago, Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar said:

They pay millions of dollars a year. They also readily give out any private info of their customers to argagaxisada, if they are asked.

The government should target them lawfully. They must open their books and all the transactions that went through.

 

1 hour ago, maakhiri1 said:

The whole mobile networks should be shutdown 

We have no other choice but to shut down. I would even shut down the overcrowded Bakaraha market until they stop paying Al-shabaab. It should be a war of life and death.

Telephone money transfer is more deadlier than gun itself. The mastermind doesn't have to meet his operatives in person .Make sure every phone buyer must have picture ID or one must be made at the shop. Any one under 25 years old should leave his fingerprints behind.

Every  money transfer that is more than $500 dollars should only be received with the presense police officer and must be verified. Anyway, I am just throwing these things out, but since Al-shabaab is morphed  in to criminal mafia with extortion means, the state must put more effort to the money side of the war..

 

 

 

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We are too complacent,  "Waxii ilaah qoray baa dhici, or Illaah baa qoray, " always as excuse.

NOW who was behind Yariisow and team killing? And it is hardly investigated, waqtigiisii baa dhamaadey ku oran.

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Xamarawi   
17 hours ago, galbeedi said:

The government should target them lawfully. They must open their books and all the transactions that went through.

 

We have no other choice but to shut down. I would even shut down the overcrowded Bakaraha market until they stop paying Al-shabaab. It should be a war of life and death.

Telephone money transfer is more deadlier than gun itself. The mastermind doesn't have to meet his operatives in person .Make sure every phone buyer must have picture ID or one must be made at the shop. Any one under 25 years old should leave his fingerprints behind.

Every  money transfer that is more than $500 dollars should only be received with the presense police officer and must be verified. Anyway, I am just throwing these things out, but since Al-shabaab is morphed  in to criminal mafia with extortion means, the state must put more effort to the money side of the war..

 

 

 

What a silly suggestions.

So you would employ a police officer sign off on every $500. 

Not very bright are you?

 

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They just killed today a well-known and well-regarded figure in Koonfurta Soomaaliya, siiba deegaanada Koonfur Galbeed. His name was Cali Aaden Marguus. He probably refused to pay baadka ee rabeen since he owned large-scale farms and businesses.

Ganacsade Cali Aadan Marguus oo goor dhaw Baydhabo lagu dilay

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Wararka naga soo gaaraya magaalada Baydhabo ee xarunta gobolka Baay ayaa sheegaya in koox hubeysan ku dileen dulleedka magaalada Baydhabo dad uu ka mid ahaa Cali Aadan Marguus oo ahaa ganacsade iyo siyaasi si weyn looga garanayo deegaannada Koonfur Galbeed.

Wararku waxaa ay intaa ku darayaan in koox hubeysan rasaas u fureen saddex ruux oo uu ka mid ahaa ganacsadaha, lamana oga ilaa iyo hadda sababta dilka dadkan ka dabeysay.

Maalmihii ugu danbeeyayba waxaa deegaannadaa si weyn looga hadal hayay muran la xiriiray  dhul ku yaalla duleedka Magaalada Baydhabo.

Cali Aadan Marguus ayaa ka mid ahaa ganacsatadda beeraleyda ah ee Baydhabo, waxaana uu sidoo kale horay uu soo noqday siyaasi si weyn looga garanayay deegaannada Koonfur Galbeed iyo waxaana uu sidoo kale ahaa aqoonyahan Soomaaliyeed.

Xigasho

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galbeedi   

Is this canola oil. If you travel any Canadian highway here in the west, you would encounter large farms with yellow flowers on the top. They are killing the most productive members of every community.

3 hours ago, Xamarawi said:

So you would employ a police officer sign off on every $500.

 

Money coming from the diaspora should be excluded. It is only from the diaspora where people throw thousands of dollars to families. Here  I am talking about local transfers. The average Somali makes less than $200 dollars a month. Even a  government ministers may make less than $3000. So, there is no available money to spare or throw around in large numbers among the residents of the country.

If someone is sending a $1000 from Boosaaso or Hargeisa to unemployed drifter in  Qoryooley or Dayniile, I want to know who that person is and who the sender is. THe same goes with money coming from Wajaale, Addis and ceelasha Biyaha to operatives in Mogadishu or Janaale. As telephone transfer money dries up , operatives must collect the money in person. The intelligence officers will have people 24 hours around Hawala offices and follow the drifters and others who should never receive that money.

And that is just the beginning. I might even make life very difficult to all fat cats from the diaspora  sipping mango in Mogadishu hotels. Available money and resources will be directed to security. Will tax 10% to every dollar sent from the diaspora. We have been feeding people for twenty years and no one is paying any taxes from these incomes coming from us. Our families should contribute the money we sent. After all it is our money. We are paying tens of thousands of dollars of taxes  here in Canada every year, and paying few dollars to the rebuilding of our country is peanuts to our income. Remember, the next generation of Somalis won't be sending any money back home, so take advantage while it lasts.

To live in a city peacefully, have a  hospital available to you and your family , and children walking to school peacefully costs money. You can't live in a city without paying your security. I want to know how many hundred of millions reached Somalia from the diaspora, and will take the 10% income directly. The Hawala will transfer to the state treasury directly. It is nnot their money but tax paid by those who sent money. That tax alone could be tens of millions.

We never had real government or state that was serious of registering things. Government is all about registery and regulation. Dhalashada, dhimashada, guurka, tira dadka iyo qof walba dakhligiisa iyo da'diisu waa furaha dawladnimada. The Chinese knew who had more than one baby in a population of one billion.. Every village is known.

 

Money should be tight in Mogadishu and other places. The so called Somali banks must open their books.  These are just few things . As soon as they change their tactics will adapt.

 

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Xamarawi   

When did you go to somalia last time galbedi.

cos your ideas sounds like qurbojoog day dreams.

if you said there should be sniffer dogs at important junctions and offices, lie dictator test for mid to higher ranking government employees, phone monitoring of potential government employees who can facilitate shabab attacks, etc I would agree with you.

but what you wrote is nonsense, because Mogadishu is very big, with thousands of xawala shops. It is bigger than any Canadian town, so you cannot put police in every corner.

 

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galbeedi   
5 hours ago, Xamarawi said:

When did you go to somalia last time galbedi.

cos your ideas sounds like qurbojoog day dreams

It has been a long time. I know it will be tough to acclimatize the culture of  lies, deception iyo Wax is dabamariska. Yet, if you send money back home , you will get the  idea. Major Hawala offices are centralized and operate in well known offices and shops. Also, the major ones like Amal and Dahabshiil might have code enforcement officers to follow government edicts.

Furthermore, if you go to Ethiopia , every bank , western union and even Dahabshill services have three or four soldiers manning outside and inside the building. In Jigjiga, Dahabshiil had four security guys at the front and inside. I do not believe that Mogadishu has thousands but 20 or maximum 30 places. Last time when i sent money to Mogadishu, they asked whether it is Xamarweyne branch or Bakaara. 

We could have an intelligence officer monitor every activity within these offices. Since money and murder are intertwined, I would follow the money.

1 minute ago, Holac said:

We need a plan. Sidaan si  maaha. 

Absolutely. You can't allow a criminal mob to bomb and kill people for money with zero consequences. We know Farmaajo will never confront the Mogadishu oligarchs for many reasons.He thinks that they are probably bigger than the state itself. Bigger olatchies with billions were decimated by many government due to their criminal activities.

 

23 hours ago, maakhiri1 said:

Waxii ilaah qoray baa dhici, or Illaah baa qoray, " always as excuse.

 

This is  the fatalistic nature of our culture. While we believe the " Qadr and preordained matters, to be fatalistic is giving up life and free will. 

In India, MUslims used to be one of the well educated and richest community for centuries. Even as early as middle of the 20th century. THen a fatalistic " Tabliiq" group showed up and told everyone not work anymore since your worldly provisions are preordained already. THey will visit your city and will tell you let us go now and leave for 40 days of Tabliiq. If you explain that you have responsibilities to feed your family and obligations, they will insist that just like the birds , they will get feed by the Almighty.

Today in India, they became poor and destitute by giving up work. Somalis are following these footsteps by accepting all these terrorist calamities  as judgement against them. Forgetting that the " Muslimul Qawi" or the strong MUslim is the one who worships and works for his responsibilities.

 

 

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