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Holac   

That is a very startling information you posted Xamaraawi. I don't know what to say either. I read the whole twitter thread from the Journalist and it is very disturbing what our country is going through right now. 

May Allah save the nation. 

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galbeedi   

Well, extorsion, murder, ransom and other means of coercion is the hallmark of Al-shabaab. Even global analysts name them as the richest extremists group in the world. 

Yet, so far nothing has been done to dry their finance. 

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It seems that the group established a profitable business although they are losing territory. With all that money they must be one of bigger employers in the region. This is what I call anarchism but they are not alone other anarchist groups are relied on them and worried losing them. That is why this information is in the news these days and Abdishakuur is talking about. This is either a free PR or indirect support of the group.  That phone is probably not registered. These telecommunication company do not want change their business model and that is why they are part of problem.  But there is light end of the tunnel, the end of group is near.

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galbeedi   

Duufaan, 

They will lose ground when only when the money dries. I heard that when Somali soldiers kill one of the Al-shabaab guys, everyone raises to the dead or wounded body to get the dollars in his pocket.

For me, the telecom guys or the Xawaala guys are just small collateral damage to save the country. I would shut them down for weeks and even months to deny the killers any advantage , and will use satellite telephone ond  walkie talkie for my soldiers. How can any sane leader will allow money to  be transferred through telephone. It is just crazy and an acceptable.

If there is a will , there is a way.

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This is highly sophisticated, like mafia style, Italian  or in Colombia , highly organised, profitable bsuiness.

Religion is just a pretext 

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57 minutes ago, maakhiri1 said:

Religion is just a pretext 

The Wahabi sect had mostly facilitated the extra judicial killing of people which is forbidden under Islamic rule. No religion will allow bombing of markets or killing of the innocent civilians. 

There is doubt that today, Al-Shabaab is mostly criminal mafia  used to kill, extort and take ransom for the innocent. unemployed criminals used as mules to kill. The best we could do is cut the financial intensive and the means they earn the money.

Why would the telecom business is operating Al-Shabaab ruled area. Like any nation who is battling terrorists, you must cut off  the phone and access through local Xawaala and other means. Ceelasha Biyaha, the main Al-Shabaab business center could be cordoned and every Bakhaar searched if there ever was any trace of receipt or Shabaab connection. While searches are underway cut the telephone and the internet from the whole region.  With quick messages no one can catch anyone with red handed. We have seen many stories where people were sent to Ceelasha Biyaha to pay the ransom.

The issues is what are we doing differently since 2012? start random searches of suspected homes in the middle of the night , of course telephone must be  down, and build huge makeshift jail to sort out the bad guys, and take your time. As usual , certain segment will raise hell and demand the release of these guys, but consider that music to the ear. There are some successful Somali intelligence groups in some  of the regions. The Puntland PIS is highly successful force against the insurgents. Their main encouragement is huge salary intensive from the Americans. Pay your   frontline men more than what the useless member of parliament takes.

If there is a will there is a way.

Oh, one more thing. Control the movements of foreign intelligence and any force within the country. They should not venture to the city or anywhere without Somali military and intelligence escort.

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4 hours ago, galbeedi said:

The Wahabi sect had mostly facilitated the extra judicial killing of people which is forbidden under Islamic rule. No religion will allow bombing of markets or killing of the innocent civilians. 

There is doubt that today, Al-Shabaab is mostly criminal mafia  used to kill, extort and take ransom for the innocent. unemployed criminals used as mules to kill. The best we could do is cut the financial intensive and the means they earn the money.

Why would the telecom business is operating Al-Shabaab ruled area. Like any nation who is battling terrorists, you must cut off  the phone and access through local Xawaala and other means. Ceelasha Biyaha, the main Al-Shabaab business center could be cordoned and every Bakhaar searched if there ever was any trace of receipt or Shabaab connection. While searches are underway cut the telephone and the internet from the whole region.  With quick messages no one can catch anyone with red handed. We have seen many stories where people were sent to Ceelasha Biyaha to pay the ransom.

The issues is what are we doing differently since 2012? start random searches of suspected homes in the middle of the night , of course telephone must be  down, and build huge makeshift jail to sort out the bad guys, and take your time. As usual , certain segment will raise hell and demand the release of these guys, but consider that music to the ear. There are some successful Somali intelligence groups in some  of the regions. The Puntland PIS is highly successful force against the insurgents. Their main encouragement is huge salary intensive from the Americans. Pay your   frontline men more than what the useless member of parliament takes.

If there is a will there is a way.

Oh, one more thing. Control the movements of foreign intelligence and any force within the country. They should not venture to the city or anywhere without Somali military and intelligence escort.

Walaahi Somalis are not ready,  for multiple reasons, PIS is successful because it is not managed by SOMALIS.

The only people who can defeat this, is someone as sophisticated as them, for example, even if you reduce corruption and increase salary, the soldiers you pay have families?  are they safe, are their families safe? the answer is no. Once you have public servants,soldiers, police,  living among the people, in the middle of the night, they came to you with gun point, and give you ultimatum, do what we want you to do, or we kill you or your families.

They extort everyone, who refuse, is either dead, or runaway. 

No one is safe.

The answer could be locate families everyone working for the government in gated, secure safe areas, and make sure they never bring their families to like Mogadishu, till this cancer is eradicated.

There was a highly level gov employee whose son collaborated and helped  these guys, because they had access to him, and forced him.

 

 

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