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gooni   

Snm hadalkooda iyo qoraalkoodu wax macnaa lagama soo qaado.

Qofku markuu naf baxayo wuxuu jecel yahay inuu ku dhawaaqo wixii maskaxdiisa ugu dambaysay sida aqoonsi iyo ninka la cayriyay asalkiisu ma ingiriis baa?

Ducooyinka ugu fiican muslinka waxaa ugu fiican ilaahow khaatumafa noo suubi aamiin yaa allah.

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Mourad1   
11 minutes ago, Suldaanka said:

Whoever that is mediating the two will need to come up with assurances that will satisfy Somaliland that Mogadishu will not back-pedal on biliteral agreements.

The SDF issue was a failure for VIlla AMISom. All the donor countries sided with Somaliland. 

The IC have asked Somaliland to talk with Somalia and reach an agreement. Somaliland have fullfilled its side of the bargain. And all these issues that Villa AMISom is creating without hope of winning, will only reinforce the IC to eventually wake up to the reality and start siding with Somaliland on this issue. 

And remember, Somaliland only needs a Golden-Goal so to speak in Football terms, and the Hargeisa+Mogadishu issue will be all over. 

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Suldaanka  iyo Oodweyne, both of you are speaking of defeat or win in sense of absolute. I, however, view it from an angle of relativeness. Looking at the SDF, before the Somali government raised the issue with the international community, Somaliland's fund was assigned to the administration without any form of discussion with the Somali government. In the current form, Villa Somalia has some sort of input in assignment and allocation of resources in the fund. Was the main objective of dictating terms to SL's administration achieved. No, however, it is still a small step in the right direction. 
 

DP world is the total opposite. It is a clear win for SL, but due to the changes in the region, the victory is in a sense meaningless. It is also shocking to see how comfortable Hargeysa's elites are with Ismaciil Cumar Geelle when it was him how personally bankrolled the motion against DP world. Now, it is "Seeddi",  ever since Assab is the preferred destination of DP world's plans. 

Overall we might disagree on minor details, I do feel like we are converging to a consensus. Now, if we go along the line of reasoning that Muuse Biixi's administration has had all of this success this past year, then, why is there a need to get involved in this matter with Nicholas Haysom and Somali government? 

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Mourad1   
6 hours ago, Oodweyne said:

Mourad1.

Take that one single line of argument as an "assignment". Turn it around till you a dizzy with it. Toss it side to side. Shake it up and down. Scratch it with your sharpish nails. Bite it, if you must do it. And when you have done all of that, see if you will make a sense of it. And you know by then how Mogadishu's silly and delusional talk of being a "legitimate government" over Somaliland is one single and simple "Golden-Goal" away for being made a "null-and-void". See if you could really understand that. And what actually Suldaanka is basically alluding to in here, mate.  

Oodweyne, 

As the English FA always opposed the Golden-Goal rule, so does the international community (including the English) oppose diverging from the status quo, so ask yourself this question: hypothetically speaking, even if the IC would consider Somalia's legal claims over Somaliland as null-and-void, would that constitute as international recognition? Ciyaar jooji!

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Oodweyne   
11 hours ago, gooni said:

Snm hadalkooda iyo qoraalkoodu wax macnaa lagama soo qaado.

Qofku markuu naf baxayo wuxuu jecel yahay inuu ku dhawaaqo wixii maskaxdiisa ugu dambaysay sida aqoonsi iyo ninka la cayriyay asalkiisu ma ingiriis baa?

Gooni,

Saaxiib, naftaada ka dhaadhici in aaney ishafrin, mar hadii aad tahay sidii aan horey kuugu idhi:

".......Miic-Miicle Mahuraankiisu yahay Muran-liitaale Madaxa looga-joogo......."

Taasna waxa aan uga jeedaa adoo ah Ina-Gummeed Ficil-Doofaar leh, maadaama aad tahay nin dhulkiisii la gumeysto, sidaad isu tidhaahdaa waxbaa lagaa fili. Ama dad ayaa kaa sugi in aad wax ka qorto.

Maya, saaxiib, taasi mid meesha taala maaha. Sababta oo ah hadii damiir iyo dadnimo ama damqasho ay inaba ay adiga kugu jirto, SNM waxa aad ku biiriso haba kuu dambeyse'e, adiga iyo tolkaaga San-Bakhaarle Ina-Fuufuu Ugaali kasoo dhargey uu ku hor taleejinayo ayey "sad" iyo wax "cir-bixiye" ah u noqon laheyd waxan aad naftaada ku hafreyso ee "garashada" ah ee aad sheeganeyso.

Markaas, saaxiib, please, Nigger, go easy on the "self-flattery", in here, mate.

9 hours ago, Mourad1 said:

Oodweyne, 

As the English FA always opposed the Golden-Goal rule, so does the international community (including the English) oppose diverging from the status quo, so ask yourself this question: hypothetically speaking, even if the IC would consider Somalia's legal claims over Somaliland as null-and-void, would that constitute as international recognition? Ciyaar jooji!

Mourad1,

Saaxiib, Now, you just arguing for argument sake. For, as I said it, last year (2018) was a resounding defeat for the Villa Somalia's clique vis-a-vis Somaliland. And I even numerated it for you.

However, it seems you are not willing to challenge my contention other than to bring on yet some more bogus assertions of your own without having anything to which to back it up your further assertions. And you seemed to be doing that without even firstly given us any evidence of the previous assertions you have made it before you moved on to yet new fresh ones.

Hence, that wont do, really. For, I shan't keep on going in circles with you, if you don't mind me saying so, mate. For that is not a way to have a reasonable debate against others with. 

Secondly, the issue of "golden-goal-metaphor", is, as I have mentioned to you a "seasoned assignment" to you, just to see how you will  be able to decipher it in-terms of what it means.

Consequently, I shan't help you there mate, I am afraid. For one of the beauties of assignment is that such things are usually left to be tussled over by those they have been assigned to. And in here all we can hope for is that you will be able to raise to the challenge and eventually tell us as to what Suldaanka was getting at with that "metaphor" of his.

Lets see how "all-knowing-and-all-clued-up" you really are in here, mate. In particularly about what Somaliland actually means that "golden-goal" metaphor and the "implication" that directly follows from it. And how we in Somaliland are meaning to unpick the "central logjam" of the whole Somalia/Somaliland issue. 

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gooni   

Cadnaan saaxiib

Snm xaqiiqda kama jawaabto waa cudur waa hore ku dhacay khiyaali yaysan kugu daalin

UN'ku haduu soomaaliya u aqoosan yahay labo dal kursi buu snm ka siin lahaa jabuuti iyo ruwanda dhexdooda.

U qaybsanaha arimaha soomaaliya waxay gadaal uga dareen iyo somaliland waana marqaan iskiis ugusoo degay.

Ujeedkooda markii lasoo koobo waa...

Nin ingiriis kasoo jeeda yaa koonfurta laga cayriyay  wax walba waa uga darantahay, ehelkooda dhabtaa waa ingiriis koonfurta soomaaliyana waa cadawgooda.

Waxaase la yaab igu noqotay sababta gaaladu u aqoonsan la'dahay nidaamka sidaa u jecel, xataa misliyiin way u ogolaadeen inay caruurtooda dhunkadaan.

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Oodweyne   

^^^^ Waakan Kii Ficil-ka Doofaarka lahaa oo ka hadlaya dad baa "gaalo-jecel", isaga oo ah mid gaala kuwii ugu liitey ee "Ilma-San-Geerash" ahaa ee Kiiniya kasoo luga-baxsadey ay u talinayaan isaga. Oo waliba ay ugu sii darayaan kufsiga inaadeertiis ay ladaba fadhiyaan.

Walee maxaa ambad maskaxda ah oo faqash ah dunidan jooga. Oo waliba kudaba lumay Shankaroon iyo Jamhuuriyadeeda Barakeysan ee aaney kabaheeda maydhi karin in ay isku dheririyaan haba kuu dambeyso'e. 

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Barwaaqo   

Cajiib, bal isaagaa dulman  oo loo doodayaaye maxaa qardajeexa  iyo meel kale ka hadalkeedda uga gidhiisha!

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Oodweyne   
3 hours ago, Barwaaqo said:

Cajiib, bal isaagaa dulman  oo loo doodayaaye maxaa qardajeexa  iyo meel kale ka hadalkeedda uga gidhiisha!

Barwaaqo,

Waa dhaqanka ay "Ina-Gumeednimo" dhasho weeye. Sababta oo ah nin la gumeysto oo kii u doodayey ee Mr Haysom ahaa wali kadaba ciyaya waxa ay ku tuseysaa "aqliga" ku jira inta uu le-eg yahay. Iyo sida uu "ulaqabsatey" oo uu "marxabadda" ugu yahay "bahdilka" tolkiis lagu hayo, oo aanu wax weyn u arag. 

In other words, one of the "long term consequences" of being under "colonized" set of brutal reality as most social scientists will tell you is that the human's psyche gets to be "conditioned", or it gets to be "normalized" into this set of "degrading political reality".

Hence, it becomes natural outlook in which one has accepted it. And in the case of our "Ina-Gumeed" fellow, who is our "gibberish spouting-Gudhuu-Boy of SOL", such a "social conditioning" seems to have taken a long and welcoming root in his fragile psyche.

So he sees nothing wrong with the idea of some hired Ethiopian's forces murdering his kin and kith on a broad daylight. And indeed these Ethiopians are doing all these local murder at the behest of those of whom he actually and politically "belly-dancing" for them in here of SOL. Whilst in turn they are living-large in Villa Somalia.

In fact he will get angry with anyone who ask around as to why his people are being murdered in this way. Not with the people who did the murder, mind you, But, of course, he will get extremely angry with the ones who had the "temerity" to even raised such "pertinent questions" in the first place.

Hence, my dearest, in here you can actually see the "inglorious act", the "ignominious spectacle", and the sheer bewildering and the "socially conditioned-wretched life" of "Ina-Gumeed" in action. And to boot, it's even a free-view to be observed by all in right here of SOL, indeed.  

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Oodweyne   
52 minutes ago, maakhiri1 said:

Mourad1 had a point, this was not SL fight.

On the contrary. For he never had a point. Even in distance one in which others could, charitably, alleged on his behalf that he had a "passing or nodding acquaintance" with that point, perhaps not a "full logical affinity" of it with the point in question.

In other words, re-read his waffle about Somaliland having a "poor diplomatic" year in 2018, when in fact, at every time we took on the Villa Somalia, and took them on a meaningful fight, we bested them.

And the only issue that the Villa Somalia can brag about it is the "Air-Control issue", which is still "bending". Given that one of the issue in which the recently-sacked SRSG was going to address forthwith would have been to get a "final settlement" about Air-Control-issue between Somalia and Somaliland.

So I do not know what on earth you are indeed spouting in here, mate. Particularly about him having a larger point of any significance in the first place. For that would be easily observable to you if only you pay a "closer attention" to the lengthy exchanges we have had in here in this thread. 

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MMA Isqor bilaa qaat

1 hour ago, maakhiri1 said:

Mourad1 had a point, this was not SL fight.

 

 

It will have been  better for Somaliland to keep quiet, now they look bad siding with foreigner UN civil servant against their own Somali people. The UN has no choice but to replace him with someone who has more diplomatic skills and knows how to navigate the crazy Somali politics.

 

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cadnaan1   
3 hours ago, gooni said:

Cadnaan saaxiib

Snm xaqiiqda kama jawaabto waa cudur waa hore ku dhacay khiyaali yaysan kugu daalin

UN'ku haduu soomaaliya u aqoosan yahay labo dal kursi buu snm ka siin lahaa jabuuti iyo ruwanda dhexdooda.

U qaybsanaha arimaha soomaaliya waxay gadaal uga dareen iyo somaliland waana marqaan iskiis ugusoo degay.

Ujeedkooda markii lasoo koobo waa...

Nin ingiriis kasoo jeeda yaa koonfurta laga cayriyay  wax walba waa uga darantahay, ehelkooda dhabtaa waa ingiriis koonfurta soomaaliyana waa cadawgooda.

Waxaase la yaab igu noqotay sababta gaaladu u aqoonsan la'dahay nidaamka sidaa u jecel, xataa misliyiin way u ogolaadeen inay caruurtooda dhunkadaan.

Gaalada reer galbeedka waxay aduunka ugu necebyihiin dabadhilif bilaa mabda'a ah markaa nimanka weli ma fahamsano arintaas sidee gaalada dabada uga dhaqayeen the last 27 years and still nothing to show.

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