Old_Observer 234 Posted November 29, 2018 On 11/28/2018 at 4:02 AM, Tallaabo said: I can understand spending money on the madax dhaqameed and the other power brokers in Garowe and elsewhere but what will the ordinary man and woman in Puntland gain from this horse trading? They can neither vote in this "election" process nor have any other say in this matter, do they? How will the cash being spent in this political market trickling down to the small man in the villages? The little villages are the ones that influence the elder/rep of their area. Amazingly Puntland is more democratic and wider base for the system/representative democracy. The rep/elder cannot vote against his village. That is the trick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tallaabo 213 Posted November 30, 2018 13 hours ago, Old_Observer said: The rep/elder cannot vote against his village. That is the trick. Please explain to me how one clan elder represent the diverse views of all his clansmen? As with all the communities across the world, if a section of the village is impressed by candidate A and the remaining people are in favour of candidates B, C, D, etc, how will one elder reconcile all those differing views? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tillamook 100 Posted November 30, 2018 5 hours ago, Tallaabo said: Please explain to me how one clan elder represent the diverse views of all his clansmen? As with all the communities across the world, if a section of the village is impressed by candidate A and the remaining people are in favour of candidates B, C, D, etc, how will one elder reconcile all those differing views? To reconcile and align differing views is precisely the reason why we have Clan Elders in the first place: Clan Elders only forward a clan’s chosen candidate— only after due deliberation, and consideration has been undertaken by his tribesmen. Naturally there’s is going to be a lot of competition and grievances, which leads to some horse trading or some other form of placation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old_Observer 234 Posted December 1, 2018 15 hours ago, Tallaabo said: Please explain to me how one clan elder represent the diverse views of all his clansmen? As with all the communities across the world, if a section of the village is impressed by candidate A and the remaining people are in favour of candidates B, C, D, etc, how will one elder reconcile all those differing views? There is only one chair so whether in Britain, America or anywhere there is no system where all opinions can be at the top at one time. But what you have a really superior method is that example: A school is priority of a village or a water well..They might be promised by every candidate for this, but they know who will do what he promised at least the rep/elder knows this. The elder will choose one that will do this and by that he also cements his being rep/elder for ever... In the scheme of things this is actually more representative, very close to the people and relies on influencing both the people and the rep/elder at the same time. Its quite good. It also connects the tradition and modernism at the same time. Its a system that works for a professor from Harvard and a nomad from Qandala. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Holac 258 Posted December 2, 2018 Clan elder/rep voting system is the closest thing to perfection in Somali doorasho system at this time. No one dies on election day and there is no dispute about walagu shubtay and other nonsense that leads to years of strive and instability. If it is not broken, don't fix it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old_Observer 234 Posted December 2, 2018 5 hours ago, Holac said: Clan elder/rep voting system is the closest thing to perfection in Somali doorasho system at this time. No one dies on election day and there is no dispute about walagu shubtay and other nonsense that leads to years of strive and instability. If it is not broken, don't fix it. Absolutely. What is democracy other than some formulae agreed by the people. Having been the most advanced Somali society of having a kingdom in the past centuries also comes into play and helps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cadnaan1 125 Posted December 13, 2018 Another musharax sanadkan waa aanadkii faataalayaasha. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oodweyne 708 Posted December 13, 2018 LOL...This is must be the funniest (s)election season that Pirate-land have seen in some time now. But, why do this absurd stunt of dressing-up what ever protection details you have with you in this way? It really is a comedy stuff. One wishes we have a similar sort of US's Saturday's Night-live (SNL) sort of piss-taking program in the Somali political world. Or at least the Somali's TVs channels should try a comedy of that sort. Given that this (s)election process in Pirate-land seems to be affording us enough laughable material to make so many shows of that kind from it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cadnaan1 125 Posted December 13, 2018 Another musharax with female bodyguard's 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duufaan 51 Posted December 14, 2018 This is really funny. Why so many candidate? Is this for social media or resume building? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miyir 2 Posted December 14, 2018 Waw Waa shidantahay 😎 may the best dressed win Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ducale 141 Posted December 14, 2018 19 hours ago, cadnaan1 said: Another musharax sanadkan waa aanadkii faataalayaasha. Piratelanders inaba caadi ma'aha kkkk The h'arti Hugo chavez of pirateland. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oodweyne 708 Posted December 14, 2018 6 hours ago, Ducale said: The h'arti Hugo chavez of pirateland. Lool, That is what I thought as soon as I saw picture of this "candidate" with a military camouflage. He really looks the late Hugo Chavez so uncannily. Lets hope he wins for we could be having similarly endless TV's entertainment Mr Chavez used to give to the poor Venezuelans on a nightly basis. And this time around, of course, our Pirate-land's Chavez will be saying things like "any minute now, I am going to drive Somaliland into the sea" kind of tendentious and braggadocio-laden sort of silly spleen. I can't really wait for that sort of nightly entertainment on You-tube, really. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gooni 67 Posted December 15, 2018 Reer puntland guud ahaan waa macruuf waa dad faan jecel. Musharaxuna waa inuu tix galiyaa dhaqankaa soo jireenka ah. Shacabka caadiga mid qufacaya hadaad weydiiso ma gaajaa ku haysa waxay ubadan tahay inuu kuu sheego xasaasiyad iyo sanboor Shacab nool weeye waa istaahilaan inay labistaan, kii khayr ugu jiro allaha waafajiyo. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oodweyne 708 Posted December 15, 2018 ^^^^ In other words, they are the "true definition" and the "living manifestation" of this little ditty: ".......Waa Fuley Faan-badan oo Fantasiya iyo Faatadhugleyn kala Fac-dhiga Fool-eriska iyo Fal-Rageedka Fariid Ficliyo ......." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites