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Puntland Minister Bay Bakool MP "Please speak proper Somali..."

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As someone who spent a whole year in Wanlaweyn and surrounding regions, I can attest that the South West people are the finest Somalis in terms of hospitality and welcoming others. 

By the way, MMA , you should keep  the legacy of your dad and aim high in the future of Somalia. Certainly you have the wisdom and the character to contribute to the future.

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I have noticed my last few visits to xamar that af maay speaker are becoming more aggressive and forcing people to understand af maay.

I was my brother business place in Bakaaraha and all the maay speaker customer will speak to you only in af maay and if u tell them u don't understand that will piss them off and they will just walk off not buying anything from you.

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6 hours ago, galbeedi said:

I do not think that this guy is even speaking a real Maay. He is probably some of those Somalis from the diaspora or former resident of Bay who lost the language long time ago and trying to practice now.

It was 95% Maxaad Tidhi and few Maay words. 

If Maay is just like that then it could disappear in a few years intermingling and trading with other regions.

Look at these lyrics. It is difficult to understand unless you are a Maay speaker.

These are the real Maay. 

 

https://youtu.be/ukV91Wuz1_w

This is the best Somali song ever made and I think afmaay is more richer than maxaa tiri.

Af maxaa tiri waxaa Ku badan foreign words borrowed from Arabic, English, Italian.

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1 hour ago, Mooge said:

lot of ignorant somalilanders on this thread.

Not, really. You see the Greek philosophers of antiquity or Homer and his Iliad stories and its composition of it, which in turn was essentially betokened of the elan and the depth of human's learning and its sophistication of it, would have no difficulty in knowing that he is being made to listen nothing less than gibberish malarkey of the worst sort if he were to have been asked to sit one night of listening a  collection of "Red Indians" jabbering the night away at his presence with their particular guttural language.

Similarly,  Gaariye, Hadrawi, Salaan Carabey, Qamaan Bulxan, Cali Dhuux, Yowle, Gaheyr, Ina Fadal, Suldaan Timo-Cadde, Xassan Sh. Muumin, Faarax Nuur, being told to sit still for a whole freaking night just listening to "Gudhuu-Gibberish-marlakey-May-Fadaase", would have no difficulty in knowing that what they have been asked to "judge its elan of it" has no semblance of "classical literature" of the Somali race.

And indeed, they would have concurred with one another that whatever such "alleged Somali language" has a merit of it to itself, it has certainly no redeeming feature worthy for them to detained by it.

Much less said about them accepting this "Maay-Maay gibberish stuff", as part or version of their Somali mother tongue, in which they were a pass master of it.        

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Reer Koofurku Af-maxaa iyo Af-maay gooda ha iska eryadaan. :D

 

Kolay, reer somaliland ahaan Af-maxaa wax la yidha ma naqaano. Afka hooyo waa Af Soomaali dhalad, pure ah oo Bantu iyo Balaayo kale lagu dhex milin. :D

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22 hours ago, galbeedi said:

As someone who spent a whole year in Wanlaweyn and surrounding regions, I can attest that the South West people are the finest Somalis in terms of hospitality and welcoming others. 

By the way, MMA , you should keep  the legacy of your dad and aim high in the future of Somalia. Certainly you have the wisdom and the character to contribute to the future.

Galbeedi, barbaar koris ayaan ku jiraa hadda, waa ogtahay qurbahaan carruurta gacan adag lagu haayo loo baahanyahay. Rabi hadduu ka dhigo inta la noolyahay in the near future, who knows.

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17 hours ago, cadnaan1 said:

This is the best Somali song ever made and I think afmaay is more richer than maxaa tiri.

Af maxaa tiri waxaa Ku badan foreign words borrowed from Arabic, English, Italian.

Cadnaan, try to find Afmaxaa word u dhigma 'friend' in afka Ingiriiska. Mar hore uu ka tirtirmay. Friend in Afmaay waa widaay. Careys Ciise Kaarshe saararkiisa haddaa dhageysatid ereygaan widaay ayuu isticmaalaa maadaama uu Reer Jubbooyinka ahaa and was very familiar with Afmaay.

Tusaale kale dowladii Kacaanka markee ereyada qaarkood bixineysay waxaa ka mid ahaa ereyga caanka ah ee horseed, laga wadana vanguard.  Hor waala gartee 'seed' intuu ka yimid Reer Afmaxaa ma isweydiinin. Ereyga seed oo Afmaay ah Afmaxaa kan ugu dhow waa 'aadid.' Reer Afmaay 'intee seedaasa?' ayee isdhahaan markee qof weydiinayaan intee u jeedaa ama intee u socotaa ama intee aadeysaa.

Dowladii Kacaanka ma isticmaalin 'horaadid,' yacni kuma habooneynin naxwi ahaan, instead preferring the old Soomaali word 'seed.'

Also the word hear in Afmaxaa maxaa lagu dhahaa? Maqal? Maqal Afsoomaali ma'ahee. In Afmaay, it is 'dheeg' oo ka soo jeedo dhago. In Afmaay 'i dheegahaaytee'  waa ma i maqleysaa in Afmaxaa. Closest Afmaxaa could be 'i dhageyso,' but dhageyso is listening, not hear. Hearing waa maqal. Hearing and listening are tototally different.

Also inuu Afmaayga aad ugu fac weynyahay ereyga 'geel' ayaa ka garaneysaa meeshuu ka soo jeedo. Afmaayga geelka gaal ayaa loogu yaqaan. Meelo badan iyo qabiillo badan magaca 'gaal' ayee wataan, not geel. Sida qabiilka Xasan Sh, Sh. Shariif iyo xirtooda ka soo jeedaan oo aabihii geelka laga wado. Sida qabiilka kuwa geelka jecel laga wado oo Hiiraan degan. Meelaha qadiimiga caanka ah waxaa ka mid ah 'laasgaal' oo Waqooyiga ku taalo.

Also qabiilkee wadaagaan iljeex iyo reer Afxaayoow ku hadlo magac Afmaay ah ee wadaagaan oo laga wado dawn in early morning ama waaberi.

Also qabiillada degan Bari, Sanaag iyo Sool qabiilkee kor ka wadaagaan magac Afmaay ah ee wataan, most of them mana oga. In Afmaay, magacaan means nin weyn.

One can go on and on about this.

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I don’t see what the fuss is in here. Af Maxaatiri and Af Maay are both languages of Somalia. The only differences is that Af Maxaatiri is a diluted language which is mingled with extraneous foreign languages.

Every Af Maxaatiri speaker who carefully studies the etymology of the words they use in their language will quickly see how much of what he speaks is borrowed from other languages. But this does not make it a bad language or Af Maay necessarily a good language, because even Af Maay has elements other of languages such as Afaan Oromo.

So this shouldn’t be shocking. Somalia location makes it a melting pot of languages, cultures and traditions. For instance, it is widely known that many Somalis trace their ancestry to the Arabian peninsula, so why would anyone begrudge them the fact that their Somali has many Arabic words infused in it... and so on and so forth.

So this silly debate needs to stop.

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It is not about Af Maxaa tiri or Af Maay , it is about a guy who is well versed in Af Maxatiri, asking Qs with arrogance in Af maay, and we seen many examples. Qofkii fahmeeyn sanka laga geliyo maaha, else chaos.

It is for the gov to teach future generation, both dailects.

I have read about Somali Language,  100% clear that Af Maxaatiri originated from Af Maay.

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In fact, the guy asking the question doesn't even speak Maay. He was just a trouble maker trying to get his 15 minute .

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Af Maay iyo Afsomali are two different languages. Maay in its purest form is closer to Af Oromo Afan than it is to pure Somali. I read a research by one Maay Maay guy based in North America to that effect. So let us not mixed things together. There are also many other languages such as Markaawi, Bravanese, Mashunguli, that are spoken in the country. Calling Af Maay Somali is political statement than it is reality.

All in all, Somali language share origin with most languages spoken in the horn specially Af Oromo, Af Maay, Anfar etc , and this may well explain the DNA similarities of these communities.

 

 

 

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10 hours ago, Samafal said:

Af Maay iyo Afsomali are two different languages. Maay in its purest form is closer to Af Oromo Afan than it is to pure Somali. I read a research by one Maay Maay guy based in North America to that effect. So let us not mixed things together. There are also many other languages such as Markaawi, Bravanese, Mashunguli, that are spoken in the country. Calling Af Maay Somali is political statement than it is reality.

All in all, Somali language share origin with most languages spoken in the horn specially Af Oromo, Af Maay, Anfar etc , and this may well explain the DNA similarities of these communities.

Scholars don't agree with your assessment. 

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