Ethiopian blogger "Ethiopia and Somalia will join in the near future..."

[maakhiri1]

1 hour ago, Samafal said:

I don't know why we somalis are so afraid of Ethopia. Ethopia is as vulnerable as Somalia is in terms of ethnic unrest and political upheaval. I believe we have a lot to gain from economic integration as part of Horn of Africa bloc that is equivalent to the that of the Eastern African Econmic bloc. We have very business minded population that have already proven themselves in Eastern and Souther Africa, and we can easily dominate Ethopia once they open up and adopt free trade.

All we need is to get our acts together and strengthen our institutions so that we go into negotiations while we know what are our interests iand how best to achieve them.

what happens when you are overrun, and become minority in your country, like Uyghurs! 

[galbeedi]

4 hours ago, Old_Observer said:

As you said it some over enthusiastic Oromo trying to show that an Oromo PM is best for friendship with Somalia. He missed the fact that:

Of course. An Oromo prime minister supposed to have a different outlook than a Tigray or Amhara , that is given, but I read these issues in totally different lenses.

I also agree that there is no need to blame Ethiopia for looking after their interest.

First, the issue has nothing to do with trade. It is all about imposing a false image of Ethiopian power to show those who bankroll them,  whether it is UAE or others , that a weak Somalia could be persuaded to many impossible or unfeasible ideas at this time.

Ethiopia per se, doesn't build it's own infrastructure with their own money. Their high ways, dams, the train from Djibouti and others are mostly paid by Chinese loan and foreign loans  As we speak , their foreign currency exchanges have depleted which is why the UAE is depositing a  billion dollar to shore up. A beggar nations can't spare any money to others.

As I said, the main problem is the Somali leadership and those who are probing them.

When  I asked those who are on the know on these issues, the answer we are getting is simple and familiar for most Somalis. A weak and venerable Somali leader is asking favors for an exchange to give away the Somali shop just like the one before him--Hassan Sheikh Mohamuud.

Those who are on the know told us that Farmaajo had asked Abiy Ahmed to keep out the regional leaders and deal only with federal government in exchange for giving the ports to front companies from  UAE and Ethiopia. Isn't that the  same thing he asked the last prime minister Desalegn?. Madaxweynayaasha kale iga celi , aniguna dekedaha iyo waxii kale ee aad rabto Ayaan kuu xaraashi. 

At least, Siilaanyo and Biixi  got few millions in their pockets  and the promise to join the gulf coalition .Despite the bad deals they signed, they did not hide their intension to join both to Ethiopia and UAE.  

He is basically asking a foreign power who had worked overtime to weaken the Somali state to prop up his power. The legitimate leader of Somalia is asking all kinds of help from Ethiopia,. If that is the case, then why would we blame Somali regions and tribes who want to survive in the age of conflict and uncertainty?

Farmaajo should now that there is no short cut to bring the Somali state No one can dig you out of the mess but yourself and the Somali people. No Ethiopian help,  American drones, or the work of foreigners will bring Somalia back. 

Bal is weydi oo waa maxay go'aamada qadhaadh ee aad qaadatay si aad dalka u so celiso.  Mucaarad la eedeeyo iyo reer hebel baa I hortaagan kaama saarayso. Aakhirka,  halbeegu waa maxaad qabatay. Shaqo culus iyo go'aamo qadhaadh oo lagu afgembiyayo fawdada sodnka sano soo socotay ayaa lagaa rabaa.Dad badan waa In ay qayliyaan , oo aanad u joojin geediga.

Three regional governments  (Hiiraan, Galmudug iyo Koonfur Galbedd) reside with you in Mogadishu. Each one of them must fly to reach the capital since roads are dangerous, yet they claim to be " Maamul"

Finally, a government that resides at the Mogadishu green zone doesn't have any mandate to negotiate future Somali ports or trade with neighbors. I

In this transition time, Since you are the legitimate and recognized government of Somalia, your main goal at this juncture is to defend the territorial integrity of the country  including the maritime borders in the international arena and the UN.

Inta laguu imaanayo, dalka iyo dadka na sii gaadhsii oo fadlan ha xaraashin.

[gooni]

Ducaale iyo suldaan walaalayaal gooni isu tuurka snm ay soomaaliya inteeda kale ka qaadatay itoobiyaa keentay.

Taasina waxay sababtay inay idaacadaha layska arko, uga mahad celiyaan ayagoo ku tilmaamay waalaalo isku dhiig iyo dheecaana.

Soomaalidii lays lahaa issir bay wadaagaana waxay ku tilmaameen dawlad ay jaar yihiin oo burbursan.

Duqsigu asagoo meelaan fiicnayn ku dul taagan yuu haddana faraxashaa.

Samafale

saaxiib baqdintu waa towfiiq xumada soomaalida ka muuqata waxayna horay ugu maahmaahday dad kaa badan iyo biyo kaa badan labaduba way ku hafiyaan siduu maakhir kuu sheegayba.

Boosaaso iyo hargaysaa ugu horaysa meelaha aqliyaadka soomaalidu ka bilaabanayso ayadoo la ogyagay inaan weli xal loo helin xuduudka labada jamhuuriyadood u dhexeeya.

Dhanka awoodda ciidanka

Tiro hadday wax tarayso ereteriya bay beri hore ku qabsan lahaayeen wsliba luuqad diin iyo dhaqanba ka dhexeeyo.

Taasi baqdin ma leh,hal malyan oo towfiiq leh cid dhulkooda geli kartaa ma jirto weliba siyaadaa loogu dari.

Waxaan maqlay reer barigu waa dad si fudud loogu dhex melmi karo,balse waxay kashifaan, markuu isu sharaxo hogaamiye sare maxaa ka jira arintaas adigoo mahadsan?

[Samafal]

8 hours ago, maakhiri1 said:

what happens when you are overrun, and become minority in your country, like Uyghurs! 

You are assuming that the whole Ethopian population will move to Somalia. Ofcourse there will be a mechanism to control immigration, that is why we need to strengthen our institutions first. Your concern is no different from concern of Tanzanians and Ugandans have about Kenyan skill workers overtaking their local workers, but it did not stop them to continue to be part of the East African Economic bloc. 

That said, I don't think economic integration will happen overnight but will take years to come into fruition. Ethopia is poor country and does not have the means to invest one seaport let alone four at once. What is happening here is that UAE has realised it can not fulfill its ambitions to invest in Somalia without the Somali government's blessing. 

[cadnaan1]

This is what abey Ahmed said and nothing wrong with it by becoming strong united east Afrikaan countries.

[Old_Observer]

4 hours ago, galbeedi said:

Those who are on the know told us that Farmaajo had asked Abiy Ahmed to keep out the regional leaders and deal only with federal government in exchange for giving the ports to front companies from  UAE and Ethiopia. Isn't that the  same thing he asked the last prime minister Desalegn?.

lol

Believe it or not Abiy asked Farmaajo the same thing. Somalia presdient wants his kilil's out and Ethiopian PM wants kililka out. This is very dangerous for Somalia more than Ethiopia. In Ethiopia they want to reverse the policy that has worked last 10 years and brought quite fast development. It also protected Somalis from being harassed by soldiers from other parts of Ethiopia different culture different faith different everything and feel colonized helpless and humiliated.

On Somalia side terrorism increases by virtue of the Somali everywhere being overlorded. Action brings reaction then bigger reaction.

This is good indication SFG is finished and counting days till next election/selection. UAE has achieved what it wanted and this time UAE will clean all regions of anything Qatar or Turkey.

The deal with Djibouti looks very unlikely to go ahead, deal with Sudan same, but deal with Kenya will go ahead.

 

Are you saying a neighbor Oromo should be better than a far away Tigray? Are you saying a closer Oromo fighting with Somali for trade route and khat route and contraband route control is better than a far away Tigray who will hardly get invlved in this without a Somali friend. Are you saying that someone who historically pushed and pulled with the Somali for control and settling in that area is better than someone from far away.

The Oromo will be no.1 enemy of full autonomy of the Somali people. You might have heard it from your friends where many Ethiopians are terrified of the amount of autonomy the Somali have in comparison to even the Oromo. There is a feeling that the Somali when ready will just declare independence and there will be no one to stop him.

 

You have the opposite understanding of what is possible.

[Tallaabo]

2 hours ago, gooni said:

gooni isu tuurka snm ay soomaaliya inteeda kale ka qaadatay

I like your language 

[Tallaabo]

Somalia and Ethiopia: United they stand, divided they fall. Nabad iyo nolol iyo midnimo.