Khadafi
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AUN He was truly a patriot and a good musician!.
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Alle ha ku soo hanuuniyo walaal. Ogow diinta islaamka ey badbaadinta ruuxaagi ey tahay. The one who is evil can not be compared to the one who is good. Faith in God is good but Allah has sent prophets and the final prophet the mercy of all prophets, Sayyadina Muxammadil-Mustafa NNKH.
I can see now where the morals come from. Have nothing more really to reply to you. You have much further problems then some petty somali tribal political issues.
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14 hours ago, Game changer said:Madfac baa Ku dhacay bay dhaheen. Laakiin gaadhigiisu wax madfac Ku dhacay uma ekayn. Maalintaas uu dhintay na dagaalba ma socon. Weligay ma arag madfac hal qof dila , Misena aan Waxba burburin. Rasaas baa Ku dhacday , sida Ku cad muuqaalka gaadhigiisa Any way oday cadaw nagu ahbuu Weligiiba oo cuqdad weyn u haya durriyada.
Tubto min kulli dhanbil astaaghfurlillah. Sooma ogid in mayda dhintay lama caayo. Game changer, our faith does not allow talk ill about the dead. Tolkaagi maalinta bacthiga ma kula joogan ee taqwada Alle ama adaabta islaamka aan ilaalino.
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1 hour ago, Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar said:Another 'fact' on the ground, Mr. Butus Baanjar:
Cabdibilaha dabajeex lama saari jirinee ee qoryihii weynaa ee dhashiikaha la saari jiray ma laga wada qabsaday? Hub la'aan ayaa meesha ka dhacday.
Its bizarre and comical. Nothing has changed,. An obeased man with a dashiko on a truck. I would not not be suprised if that dashikha belongs to the arms of collapsed somali government of the 1991 or if it works. The sad thing is that nothing changed. The only new thing thing is new ak-47 bought from some eastern european countrey or smuggled from Ghaddafis collapsed regime from sahel regions. While drought is killing people in northern Somalia or Somaliland, the only thing we see is killings, no new water dams, no irrigiation. Its truly a tragedy. We are seeing a crisis unfolding.
I read a report that people cant keep up the nomadic lifestyle. People are flooding to the cities. No instututions. The fragile "somaliland" government that held together by an old grudge against "other" somalis is collapsing. When will this orgy of phantasy and bizarre world end? Petty tribal killings? What has really changed? 100 years ago it was spears between Somalilanders and Somalilanders against other, somalis against somalis. Today we are seeing the same thing. A tribe forcing and boasting about a colonial border set by a white man. Yaab! MMA Kolley askarigaan maskiinka jaadka ummadaas wareeriyay uma eko. Baasto iyo bariis oo kan ka dhargay. Mininkiisa moo iska joogo.
To be honest, no diffirent from the south. What we have is a few elite group, individuals who have 100% of Somalias economy who see the status qou as something beneficial. ******** who have taken suits. Whats deeply disturbing is how game changer in his hybris is actually from his comfortable home joking about the bombardment of a small city. Abwaan Kadiye who wrote Soomali baaan ahay died in that horrific attack. Some will pay the price of that marty one day. AUN.
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Talaabo, you have clearly matured and recognised or should I say made it public two key things that are muqadass in this discourse
1- We are all Somalis, be from Somali from Somaliland or a Somali puntland. As a ethnic group we are one
2- You also realised the suffering with tribal conflicts with borders made by the white man and realised that no one clan force its position on another clan.
These 2 points are important find a solution to the parched lands of the north. Nothing good in somalis killing somalis. Brother and against Brother. The extremist elements within the SNM should realise that.
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So your tribal state, borders by the british, white folks should be accepted by other somalis? What makes you think somalis would want accept white folks borders? Even in your city state, the tribal state, even if you gained a state? Would you better off? for 30 years you have had semi-tribal stability built upon a grudge. Once that grudge is gone what makes you think that 1993 and tribal politics that is the standard today would not occur in your city state? Think out of the box. Cadaanka ku gumeystay are uniting so that still be force to reckoned with to plunder Africa and here you are. Waxyaalo maaba loo jawaabo. Bax qaxwo iyo bun soo cab.
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Hate speach and khwarijism should be banned. In no countrey is hate speach and fanning the clanes of tribal hatred or religous extremism allowed neither should be it allowed in Somalia. For heavens sake just look at Ethiopia. Oromos calling for butchering Amharas and vica verse. Radio Hutu . Somalis are not spared. Every somali have found social media as platform to spread madness, What I dont understand is though how the old arch-kharijite Xasan Daahir Aweys is in house arrest but could be able to spread takfirism and fikratul-wâhabiyya. Add to that,while Somalia is engaged in a war against al-Shabaab you even have a certain shaykh on youtube with thousands of followers who is officially between the lines the religous mouth piece of Al-shabaab. Hey! Former Al-qaeda leader Abu Mansur was given the religous ministry post if I am not mistaken. If the seat was appointed to 4,5 could they not find the famous traditional sunni scholars of Baardheere or Baraawe, the only viable agro-religious community and institution that Somalia had pre-colonial times and untill now.
Nin yaabay waxaas dhahay waa yaaabay! I have been saying for years that the civil war have impacted on many ways, politically, socially, but even religously. While Saudis are abondoning the boat they created we Somalis were the ones quick to jump off our shafite madhab. We are quick at shape shifting, cheering once for the military, then clapped in parades for jewish racist evil marx and a russian filthy murderor leninism. We then skipped that boat to Reagan.
We were forced to read the poems of a warlord who murdered a revered religous person (I do not deny his hatred for colonialists). The hypocrosy is that in the south, once folks got in their private homes he was man to be cursed. We could not spare to aknowlidge that that man commited crimes and was controversial but could be commemorated for his disdain for the colonialists. No compromise. We did that lead to? dillusion of his heroic acts of defending somalis against the british and the italians. At the same time, the religous figures who like Qulatayn, and those defended the somali coast line, not a single book was written about that.
No ideological path has been chosen by us, made by us, for us, mainly somalism for the somali horn.
Social Media has been a drama show for somalis, a modern day "fadho-ku-dirir" but one with a nasty tone becouse of mentally ill people leaving alienated in Europe or America. Its hard even to find a single decent channel that tackles with philosophical issues like what somalism is. A funny side note, I will not name him, but a guy made name for himself by boasting about somalism and making interviews with important people in our history. All credit goes to him. But listen carefully to every interview. The guy does not even let the interviwer finish the story. Its all about emotions. Not a single channel has been dedicated to why we have famine, misery and the most corrupt nation in the world. Is it our culture? Is Somali culture monothilitic or pluralistic?. Tough questions is never discussed in a intelectuall manner. By the way, the so called journalist who came to fame by somalism was the first one to be includeded a photographed by a call by his "clan" in a shady room in Nairobi.
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This community will fully be a force to be reckoned with when one man one vote comes to conclusion.
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Emotions and fanning of clan-hatred is tragic. Since the collapse of the somali state in 1991 we learned the lessons of petty tribal feuds and shedding the blood of somalis is tragic and a redline and indeed xâaraan. We have in southern kharijite deviants killing innocent somalis and in northern somalia a war between somali tribes becouse of "borders" that the the british, the white man created. The white man came in 1880 and created "borders" that never existed. Its indeed a shame that some people are invoking the coloniser that we fought to legitimize that war. T
Then we have the same people who built this extremist narrative of creating a state built upon petty tribal somali tribes and its sad and tragic to see that the only place that atleast did have some relative peace, mainly Somaliland is now fragmenting. Thats the least thing we need. A war between somalis in somaliland
Have people forgotten the likes of Maykal Maryama, the martys of died fighting the british and the italians? The quest for the somali peninsuala to be liberated.? What happenneed? While the white man is busy uniting his forces find further ways to exploite our resources we are so busy fighting each other?
In summary, I have said it before. The myth of "Somaliland" as a peacefull, democratic nation (a tribal 3 city state adminstration) has been exposed. The youth in the north are struggling, the economy is struggling. A small clique of buisnessmen have the whole countrey under seige. Just look at the developmenet. Those who are older know the truth. Since the collapse of 1991 not a single viable state sponsored development has been implementented. The roads are pre 1991. The ports are pre 1991. The Air-field are pre 1991. Food is imported. Even in the the fertile south, protein as chicken is imported.
Some members of this forum seem to be extreme, irrational and full of emotions. A reality check is that 31 years has gone since some extreme elements of the armed jabhads hijacked the agenda and created Somaliland. Fine, Fix your 3 city states but no somali should be killed. Its sad that a man who engaged petty intra tribal sl-wars where blod was shed was elected to the highest post of the nation. That should be alarm call.
Yaab! The video of those called elders, one dressed as indian maharaja, and one dressed najdi saudi arab and so called "culama" who were silent when others LC were opressed were full of fury. Where were they?
Rabbi dadka maankooda usoo celi? Tribalism is indeed a disease. Look at the video of the hyeana cloaked man called Faysal Waraabe, the one who said an amxara from Addis Abeba is closer to me then a somali from Xamar? He said that in 2007 in order to span the hatred and teach this extreme tribal hatred to the somali youth of Somaliland. Decades later the hyena who enriched himself by belonging the the the ruling "click" looks older and speaks of peace.
Somalilanders or what ever, no somali should be killed becouse of tribal hatred. Wa billahi tawfiq.
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The Saga is ending, the extremists have no agenda. 30 years on and even within their ranks the anti somali extremsist political boat is being ditched by those who were duped by it.
Somalis will never be divided. 1 nation, 1 people, one fate, as soon as we this and end nepotism and concentrate on our common problems we will overcome everything.
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1 hour ago, Game changer said:If I am misguided then are you misguided too, I don't even use khat and you are talking about marfish. Sidad reerkayaga uga aaminsan tahay dad murqaama. Baanu anana reerkaaga uga aaminsanahay dawarsato and somali ba ahayn. Wax noo gaarana maahee Somalida kale sidaas bay yaguba idinka aaminsantahay. Xitaa alshabaab qaybta is qarxinta baa laydiin diraa eelaydu waa expendables.
Bal maxaa kaa galay gooni isu taagayaga waadigan Secessionist ay kaaga dhegtee , maad adba gooni u isutaagtid tid adoonyaw. Waan Ku faanaya inaan waxayga habaystay wixii dadkana Ku darsaday cidaan doonana dili Karo . Weliba aan la taaban karin saamiga aan Ku leeyahay wax kasta oo soomalidu qadhaab ama qaraab soo hesho. Fariidnimo.
I dont think your line of argumentation has any valid reply. War taarikhda soo aqriso. The only valid religious agro-pastoral instututions that existed outside Xamar was indeed the mentioned lands of Koonfur-galbeed. They managed to do what you failed to do. Mainly to welcome people, adopt a common ethos and not kill each other becouse of camels. Indeed even Hadraawi admired the somalis of Baidoa. Your a person of "xamaasad doon" oor gadaal ka gaar. Take a chill pill, take your seat, if wish to secceede go ahead and take your tre city state with you but leave other Somalis alone. Thats a political point that even your folks have understood. So how about it, founding a clan state? Who would your next nemsis be? Reer burco people? Thats the type of clanism that destroys somalis. Me and against and my brother. Indha adeedka jooji ee quraan saar tag. Discuss, 30 years is a long time. Instead of seeing a nemesis amongst other somalis why dont you ask yourselves why basic instrastracture is pre 1991 civil war.
This qoute fis from Cabdi Raxmaan Cirro who admitted this. Cirro, Silaanyo, are not gadaal-ka gaar. Their relatives are enjoying the life in mogadishu and a close relative to Cirro was even the the supreme judge of court of Mogadishu. Behind the scenes and the smoke screen reality and the ground has changed.
Yaab!
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A sudanese friend of mine from port Sudan who was part of establishment in the 80-ties to the 90-ties shared to me whats truly happening. A post-colonial nightmare is happening in Sudan. That man said to be frankly that Sudan was tightly controlled a small elite of the army of jaáli arabs but that mass education and the islamic revivalism held together vastly diffirent communuties and tribes. He said that whats happening in Sudan has allways occured mainly civil war but that it was constrained to distants parts of the countrey. The only viable instutution of the countrey that held together the nation according to was the army and the civil servants and the islamic clergy. He clearly said and the historical records supports his claim. Sudan chose to take another path of trying to become a nation that matured. Omar Hasssan Al Bashir path to China and Sudan rejecting the global order of the IMF and its way of flooding the nations with western goods could not be accepted by the west.
Slapped with sanctions that countrey withstood but greedy Omar Hassan al Bashir underminded the only viable instutution that Sudan knew about, mainly the army. The guy fearing coup when rebels advanced to omdurman in 2004 dismantled the army. The muslim-non arab sudanese civil servants published the most well read book of Sudan. A book called the black book of Sudan with statistics that showed how the nile-delta arabs dominated every scope of the nation. Omar Hassan Al-Bashir played with fire and recruited camel herders while dismissing professional soldiers. Many dont know about this but Sudan is the only known nation with viral mineral needed to create chips. With the rejection of China the west looked upon Sudan. Making a nation a faiiled nation makes it easier for Sudan becoming the next congo. A vast African nation, larger then Europe with european companies looting and getting contacts with weak government.
Now my friends things are getting uglies. The sudanese army been unable to defeat the jackal Hemeti and is bunch of camel herders. They are in controll of the areas that the elite reside in. Today on 10 july, a sign of the desperation of Sudanese army a general mobilisation have been made The worst scenario of that we could imagine is happening in sudan. "Mass mobilisation" was seen by non-khartoum people a tribal plea and RSF under Hemeti made the same thing and the arms depot has been opended to the people, Qof walbo Soomaliya waxii ka dhacay 1991 knows what happens when no one is control and weapons chaches are freely distributed, Its sad to see a nation that gave Somalis during their worst times in history, opputunities to study, freely. Sudan and Syria were two nations that Somalis could enjoy free education
No has 12 weeks gained the upper hand. Even RSF is composed of diffirent factions only on bent upon destoying. No one has heard of Xamati since a month,
We might being a Somalia scenario for Sudan. Ilaahay Ummada Suudan ha badbaadiyo. The Europeans have allready made up plans a "sudanese federarion" aka a political bypass word for the looting of Sudan. I truly belive if the army is unable in the coming 2- months to take full controll of khartoum, they themselves with their command controll order will collapse. Mark my words, a grandiouse conferance in europe into a bantuninised "federation" is in the work of the EU. Question begs if Turkey that invested a lot in Sudan will accept it?
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To the thread maker: Be reasonable, honest and have political dialogue. Making bizarre statements is just boring. We know it, the world makes it. The extremist elements within the SNM secceionists are hellt bent on their seperatist dream. I personally have no problems with it. Hey after all you can cant tell a confused "somalilander" that he says to the world he is somali by ethnicity and at the same time have having selfhatred Forcing the "the snm narrative" on non- snm clans is simply injustice. Even the the extremists elements within the SNM are being exposed by the own folks. The burco people and the Awdal people disagree fully with the current war-lord in Hargeysaa. A man who is vicious and engaged in intra snm civil war 1993.
Meel fadhiiso, the whole somali-land project has been drowned by 1 man and its the warlord. He had one card to play and thats Somaliland is stabile unlike Somalia. That view is now destroyed. Like it or not but behind the tough rhetoric a simple trip made by the war-lord to capitals of the world is billed to Mogadishu, Its been a long time since 1991 and people in Somaliland are waking up that having a own flag etc have not solved issues like mass corruption. Just think about it, the roads, the dockyard, the basic infstracture is pre civil war Somalia. A prominent journalist from Somaliland even highlighted that.
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Forget about Somalia, the mercifull one, the lock on the chain, the chosen one Al-Mustafa Muhammad saw cried at night and endured torture and saw the unseen. Either you belive or not life continues. Hatred of Arabs, hatred of others is indeed what Udgoone Axmadaa came with. You my friend needs re understand our beutifull religion
Rabbi ayaa hanuunka le, ee rabbi kulligeena hana soo hanuuniyo.
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Impunitive or the lack of justice is what makes nation sink into corruption and decay. Other factors might be ethnic or post-colonial problems that came with the white man.
Soomaaliya is beutifull and we have have the same ethos, same ethnicity and even the same islamic jurispudence, we are sunni muslims with the shafite madhab and ahlul tariqa. Everyone talks about the tribal afflications that sent Somalia in a somekind of a bizarre mad-max nation where impunity have become the norm. With the collapse of the semi-communist regime corrupt abusive tribal regime of Siyaad Barre and those tribal jabhads that came after him, who on earth thaught that a small cult that began najd with the collapse of ottoman empire would now in Somalia wage a brutal war of killing and maiming and making takfiir on fellow somalis. Al-shabaab did not pop out from the hole like rabbit. Its sad to see that the HSM government alllowed a brutal kharijite former al-aqeda leader to be the minister of religous affairs.
Al-shabaab is indeed following the text-book maunal that their wahâabiya-cult did 200 years ago, mainly beliving that before the arrival of Muhammad Binu Abdul Wahab no muslim existed and Muhammad binul cabdul wahab was a man who died 200 years ago. They were famous for killing pilgrims and beliving that the pilgrims were non muslims. Since 1991, no one noticed and no one has done a proper academical study on these guys but the birth place of wahabism, Saudi Arabia is today returning to tradiional sunni Islam, speciallly the Hijaz. The burdwa that was discouraged and said was "no no" was read by a meccan reciter a year ago in Makka-Sharif The saudis under the current leadership have slowly cut the funds to these people while we Somalis submitted the bizarre post of religous affais to Rooobow Abuu Mansuur. Some would argue that its good with defections but has he officaly in a state interview condemned wahabiyada and their books or way of thinking ? Even he defected why give him a minsterial post? If we are unable to do justice just as justice was done against the old man Hassan Daahir Aweys who is busy conveying his extremist bizarre messages on facebook while in house arrest, could not the same be done this guy? We are living in a bizarre world. I used to belive Al-shabaab had a small following in Somalia but if you ask and dig further questions, many have today without knowing it extremist ideas. We are slowly understanding the menace of these people but its time for this Roobow to go, If justice can not be served for gods sake give post to someone traditional sunni belifs, Just see how bizarre the picture is. From a bomb-maker to minister. Thats Somalia in a nutshell.
Nin aanan yaabin ayaa yaabay. War aaway culumadii diinta inoo keenay!.?
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On 6/12/2023 at 2:24 AM, Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar said:You reminded me an interview my old man laga qaaday back in 2000. He was asked about Siyaad Barre. He said markuu Siyaad xabsi guriga ka sii daaye in around '73 ayuu saraakiil u soo diray madaxtooyada geeyey. Markaas Siyaad aabo Xamar ku soo wareejiyey, asagoo faan ka ah iyo waxqabadka dowladii Kacaanka tustusaayo. Talo ayuu weydiiyey. My old man said hal talo aan ku siiyo. Dugsiyada iskoolaadka diinta laguma dhigtee ee maado diinta ku dar manhajka. Siyaad Barre iima jawaabin yiri laakiin soon after maadada Carabi iyo Diin ayaa lagu daray manhajkii dalka.
AUN I think the 8 june 2012 was the day he returned to Allah. AUN to Aiyaad too Barre, had that habit. My Old man was also released during those times. He simply declined to be apart of the madness. Kolley dhamaantooda Allaha ha naxariisto.
Barre was not a communist, but he waisted many years building the ideological basis of pan-somalism with mumbo jumbo.
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Talaabo, Your not aware of reer koonfurey mentality your reply is full of ignorance and arrogance.
The saying goes as deeper you go to below the rivers the more weakended is the anarcho-tribalism of Somalis. You opended pandorax box so take the bullets. . Somalis are by ethnicity related but by culture far away . The Banaadiri Somalis, the B agadi G aladi, costal somalis, the bimal all of the commmunities and even the Baidoa community had and still have a culture of absorbing locals and laying the grounds of a culture based upon peace This culture or ethos took centuries to make and was ultimately done by the islamic instututions.
Why do you think the poems of the Hargeysa are about who stole camels and who killed that tribe, while most poems made by somalis in above communties have poems about life, labour, love, or sufi poem?.
Indeed, before the advent of the colonialists, somalis had strong islamic instututions. The late scholar somali christian scholar Said Samar mentions in his book that the italians failed their missioniry work by the strong non-clan based "universaty based xerow" community like baardheere, marka. The Shafite sunni sufi orders under Shaykh Uweys-Barawi who had an immense impact (his son of one of the founders of SYL) and of a culture of in incorporating the above-mudug students and then sending them back. Shaykh Cali maye of the Rashidiya dariiqo (qs) diciple was Shaykh Cali m ajerteen. They all intermarried. Such was the ethos.
For every catholic church our scholars built a local islamic school called mowlac. The late Prof who himself was a christian admitted that the catholic church failed miserably in Somalia becouse of this while they succeeded in Eritrea by making 15% of the biilin ethnic group christians. While the italians were brutal in their missionary and engaging in colonialism, the british missionaries gained a foothold in Somaliland despite they did not inhabit the areas? Why? The culture was diffirent, the ethos was diffirent. What made Mudug and above so adaptable to wahabism while most southerners remained stuck to ethos of shafite madhab?. I will give you a good example of a modern day example. Shaykh Macalim Nuur Siyaad, a poor xerow gained influence during our flirt with the bizarre communist ideology.
During the drought the late of the 70-ties and the decay of the 80-ties Mucalim Nur Siyaad AUN created center that thousands of drought stricken ppl from Mudug and Above and Soomali Galbeed were made to move in. These people were assimilated and many became his diciplies. Quraanka, Axkaamta, naxwiga, cilmiga qalbiga (tasawuff ama sufism) fiq flourished. These instututions were supported by the semi nomadic ppl and the costal ppl. The late somali qari Shaykh Abdul rashid Sufi said in his biopgraphy that he engaged in his islamic studies, coming from lands far away. His first shaykh was a coastal Somali that he studied basic shafite fiq. Everyone in costal towns knew students were theire and would donate food and alms. No such viable instututions existed in Hargeysaa or in Puntland
The only place that I can make a claim that had a viable instutution was Harar..
So what does all above had to do with the topic. Talaabo people will come to your conlusion becouse of your lack of understanding the culture and the ethos among somalis. When the ignorant realises that shouting about poems and stealing camels is ethically wrong, progress will begin. When the general society starts to understand the culture of the common good is better just as the costal cities did before the advent of colonialism.. A city that produced scholars like Shaykh Cali Suufi Shaykh dead 1904 Sh Axmad Xaaji Mahdi, Shaykh Uweys al Barawi , The late Shaykh Sufi that produced the litany of the cayniyada, a litany that every somali quranic school schild memorized fromJabuuti to Nfd and Jigjiga, when those somalis understand the common good and I say it once again the, once that ethos is revived only then can we have a common based pan-somali etnobased ideology with its islamic form.
Sad to see that the Hargeysa is now full in controll of Saudi based wahabis, the same goes for puntland. Mudug and above and By Mudug southern Gaalkacayo is included, as I said were quick to jump to a unknown jumpwagon that caused havoc and terror. Not a single intelectuall talked about this. Its tragic really. You hardly see a bosnian hanafi, a pakistani hanafi, or morrocan maliki abandoning his sunni creed for something that even dares to question the legitimacy of your islamic heritage. Marka saaxibo. Ever wonderd why it is taboo among southerners to ask the question "yaa tahay,, while the norm in Hargeysaa is "qolomodeee ahayd" ` Thats ethos in a nutshell. It Takes instututions to change that, Not flags or slogans. Inluce Sool sanaag and every part damn of those dusty ghost towns..
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Maybe instead of flirting with atheist communism, if we had embraced our indenegous pan-somali islamic legacy we would have arisen above tribalism and embraced pan-ethno-nationalim. Your into something but somalis are far away from the foul decadent ideology of fascism. Read Julius Evola, the chief ahcitect of fascism. He was into the occult and the idea tradition of fascism goes indeed the cursed one. We se a lot of ideologies but every ideology has chain. Marxism has its chain to materialism and atheism and then to the cursed one. Their is a meta-physical world that we can not ignore. The best way forward is to embrace pan-somalism with our islamic heritage and morals.
Liberalism, neo-liberalism, communism, marxim, fascism, nazism has no morals. When you see a ideology that has no definite morals no that their is a master hidden cursed one from these ideologies. Bizarre how we somalis were made to the read the workds of a racist jewish Karl Marx.
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Cabey Axmaro is walking the line the of amhara chauvanism. The brutal TPLF weyane , like it or not made a last ditch at famous 1985 Adwa conferance with the EPLF of how to handle the question of the of "Ethiopianism" and adpoted a ethno-centric based ideology. Ofcourse in those days every rebel group had to adopt a "marxist" outlok. The slick Meles choise marxist-leninist hoxaist line as a mirage for his TPLFS goal: either the dismantlement of Meneliks Ethiopia or a ethno-based Ethiopia that will never surrender to Amharas.
Looking from a broader perspective from Somali viewpoint what Abey Ahmed is doing is actually silently supported by the amhara elite of addisabeba. Remember that that it is the Amhara -assimiated urbanised of Addis Abeba that form a majority in the capital and who have vast supremacy in the ethiopian adminstration in the capital. They are the technocats. In summary, Abey is pursuing "Itoobita Tikdem". The slogan of the Mengistu.
The Amharas of Gondar and Bahridahr are not relevant. The analysis that Abey Ahmed is embracing oromo nationalism is flawed. 2 things dont add up. Being an oromo nationalist and desiring a national army and minimising the federal concept of Ethiopia. During the war he waged upon the Tigrayans the western media overlook the harsh measures that Abey Ahmed took against oromo armed militias.
Something is fishy here. Galbeedi whats your insight?
1-Does it add up? Looking for an "ethiopian identity" that aka means amhara identity and a national army and minimising the federal concept of Ethiopia that gave the 30 oromos 30 years of breathing space to establish unieversaties and and a generation of ethnic concious oromo youth.
The Somali factor.
2- We Somalis are gullable, emotionally driven people. While the Wahabi inspired itihad movement UWSLF accepted treason and big bearded "Sheikh Ibraahim Dhere" accepted the horrendous murder money of Weyane throgh Cabdi Iley the ONLF just gave up, Most rebel organisations create a political fraction that continues its natural right for freedom but they didnt have that political gymnastics. The communist kurds of Turkey made that political gymnastics. They created the HDP that gained 13% percent in Turkeys parliament and at the same time had close contacts with the many splinter groups of the communist seperatist kurdish seperatists whose number enemy 1 now is the islamic awakening of Turkish kurds. The Splinter groups is ideologicaly driven and mainly focuses on extreme kurdish seperatism and hatred of religion. This did not happen in Soomali-Galbeed. Make a breakway fraction that firmly continues with the struggle by rasing a new generation of pan somalism. 2B. What has really changed? The governnor is installed by Addis abeba as all previous were
Sh Ibraahim Dheere, Cagjr have all embracing the idea of an "inclusive" Ethiopia that somalis would be an actor. They dont even understand that the ethiopian mindset or should I say Amhara mindset that somalis exist in the republic of Somalia.
In conclusion Che and Makhir, Ethiopia is violitile. Abey Ahmed has been gone for FGS and given somalis some breathing space. At the same time his chooing the old track of the old order. This does not add up. Either the man is a conman trying to please everyone or he is what I said wolf in a sheep clothes. An Amhara in oromo clothing. If he is the first one mark my words. The guy will be gone in a year once he loses those who shed their blood for him. Mainly Oromos.
Anyways Lets see how round 2 goes. But something odd is happening in Ethiopia
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easy to beat the war drums, we all know these tribes have fought before, years ago and a century ago. For the sake of Ramadan, I wish that somali somaliland leadership understand that they can not force their secceonist agenda upon a tribe. Lets face the truth, somaliland is a tribal region. If Muuses tribe hates to be under the federal government why force other tribes? Why invoce a white man so called colonial deals he made with some bribed traditional leaders. To add historical evidence to the right cause of the people of somaliland, they fought the english, all somalis fought them.
In conclusion. Stop beating the war drums, we have climate change going on in the somali peninsuala. The nomadic way of life is changing. People need clean water, education, they need instututions. The silent majority of the somalis in hargeysaa are deeply against this war. Saaxirka Muuse, the silent majority neeeds to action against this mad-max warlord who seems to live in the times of 80-ties.
For gods sake, Ethiopia with diffirent ETHNICITITES fought a bloody war and made peace. When will we poor somali hungry nomads stop fighting?. Saaxir Muuse has to go.
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1 hour ago, Che -Guevara said:Fighting has resumed
Another meaningless tribal somali vs somali war, which one tribe wants to impose its whole "land" expirement despite rejecting others imposing soomaliweyn to them. What a bizarre world we are living in. Somalis busy killing each other while taking their wounded to Addis Abeba becouse of lack of basic medical services. Ilaahay ummada ha isku keeno dadka ha qabto this war lord Muse who seems to be living in the tribal 80-ties.
By the way, this tit for tar war has going around for a 100, years, is not a new thing that these tribes engage in this blood shedding, whats new is that it is on a whole grand scale. I dare to say you will not find this in Baidoa or Barawa and in the fertile grounds of Somalia. Shedding blood is not something that is made easy. Reer waqooyiiga kulligooda dhan xamaasad ey ku socdaan, ( politics based on feelings). When the shrewd Haile Selassie was debating to in the UN claiming Somalia was ethiopian land pan-somalism flourished. They came to the south and had a meeting to Aaadan cadde and requested a quick union. Aadan Cadde who was educated and nourished politicaly pointly adviced in mild manner and posed the quick question "walaalayal ma is xambaarki karnaa". I do not recall the exact words but the meaning was "are you guys sure about this, maybe we need more adjust our adminstrations considering on the merging of our instutututions. A proud staunch somali nationalist answerd Aden Cadde and said "waan is naqaane soomali hadaan nahnee dee dhameey". In other words cut the bullshit and merge the union.
This was some 70 years ago, sadly Islaanta whose husband was staunch pan-somalist bragged to the EU and injected herself into the shamefull dustbin of history by glorifying her colonial background by saying "I was british, I relinquished my britishness". I wonder how those words will be met by the thousands of derviches who out of gaalo-nacayb and not of tribal war, armed with spears went to war with the british armed with machine guns. 1/3 of Northerners died and in the South Shaykh Hasan Barsame of the Idrisiya Tariqa fought the italians and 2000 martys died in a single battle.
The Qaadariya under Shayk Uweys al Barawi saw that this struggle would be long and instructed his diciplines to have pacifist struggle and established zawiyas that fed the orphaned, Even the bishop of the catholic church in Mogadishu wrote how hard missionaring among somalis were hard as what he called "the mohammedan scholars know our intentions and have established lodges".
In conclusion, exactlt 100 years ago, thousands of somalis fought against the british and attained martyrdom. Now we are seeing Somalis fighting for keeping lines gaalo made. Magan Alle!
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1 hour ago, Che -Guevara said:Ethiopia: At Least Four Killed at Adwa Victory Celebration
Posted on March 2, 2023 by Gedab News in Gedab News 30
Gedab News, March 2, 2023: Today Ethiopia celebrated the 1896 victory of the Adwa battle fought against the Italian colonial army. At least four people lost their lives after the security officers fired live ammunition at the crowd in Addis Ababa while they celebrated the 127th Adwa Victory Day.
This year’s celebration has more political significance and was celebrated with unusual fanfare. Usually, the day was mainly celebrated by WWII veterans, almost all of whom are dead
Preparations for the 127th celebration of Adwa were underway for many weeks and included practice parades that today displayed the might of the Ethiopian armed forces. Armored vehicles and missile-carrying vehicles rolled in front of the guests while fighter jets roared above. This year the government limited the celebrations to the main venue at Meskel Square. Prime Minister Abiy didn’t attend the celebrations.
However, many Addis Ababans, either by choice or in defiance of the government’s decision, flocked to the traditional celebration venue at Piazza neighborhood. Police have blocked streets that lead to Piazza.
The unauthorized Piazza event was celebrated in front of the controversial Minelik statue that stands near the Giorgis church. An eyewitness told Gedab News, “it was not clear whether it was a protest-demonstration, or a celebration. Soon a clash with the police ensued.” Security officers reacted by firing teargas canisters and live bullets.
At least four people have died in the incident including a student and a teacher. The toll of the killed and wounded is expected to be higher.
For the last four years, Ethiopia was marred by civil wars caused by ethnic conflicts and rivalries. So far, the conflicts have resulted in the depletion of the country’s foreign currency reserve and has destroyed the infrastructure that it built over a three-decade period. In the last two years alone hundreds of thousands of civilians and soldiers were killed or wounded. More were displaced or fled to the neighboring countries.
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Galbeedi made an assumption that americans would dictate terms in the horn-africa. His analysis of things are often correct but I wonder if he has smelled the coffe. The battle of Adwa and the celebration of it was a redline for Ethiopia. During the era of Haile Seleassie it was the prime celebration equal to our blessed day of liberation. Years of marginalisation but also 50 years of political activism has finally awakended the oromos. During the derg, even the oromos would in their millions with the national flag march to the statue of Meneliq.
But the oromisation of Ethiopia has begun. The orthodox church has been dibided into an amhara and oromo one with the blessing of Abey Ahmed who is carefull not to alienate the oromo activists who paid with their blood remove the TPLF from power. THE OLF since its its founding branched out and the most succesfull one was the one with the philosophy to instead oromize Ethiopia and engage with the ruling elite The oromo professor Merera Gudina is without a doubt the turabi of Ethiopia today. Meles Zenawi was shrewd political and realized how dangerous this unarmed man with his ideas and even hijacked an yemeni airplance to capture him and freed him severe pressure. His long pacifist struggle with the clear agenda of historical revisionism is read today by oromo students and have been made obligtatory. He was the one who said "why should we as oromos celebrate and march to the statue of Menelik, the arch butcherer of oromors and who chopped of the hands of legs of oromo men and breats of oromo women"?. The guy is old now. He is not after power but he has leashed his hyeanas on of the people.
What is highly remarkable and without a question of doubt is that thousands of oromos marched on the same day demanding the removal of stature while thousands of out-dated amharas marched proud expecting fellow "ethiopians" to celebrate with them. What is more remarkable and without a doubt is the political move that Abey Ahmed made. This is the first time an Ethiopian ruler abstains from actually attending the celebration. I have said it before and will say it again. Ethiopia is in full disintegration.
While the TPLF are biding their time and simply and wisely choose to set the oromos free in order fire up the countrey is finally happening. While somali cland hatred has died down and somalis have finally understood that war does not solve any issues the next show down in Ethiopia will be between oromos and Amhara. Abey Ahmed gave Welkail to tigray and is engaging in getting political legitamacy from those he got power from, mainly the oromos. The project of the oromisaion of Ethiopia has begun and the process of marginalization of the Amhara has begun. If Abey Ahmed is not toppled the low level civil war ethiopia is engaged in will blow into a full civil war. The Amharas are arming themselves and the oromos. Poor somalis are disoriented what to do.
Meles was indeed shrewd. He knew that creating a ethnic yugusloavia like countrey with ethnic borders is like sitting on pile of dymanites and enjoying a good cigar. Anyways Galbeedi, gone are the days of America dictating to internal somali issues to Ethiopia when Ethiopia today is engaged:
1- Ethiopia is in a civil war, it has just reached addis abeba.
2- The Rebel movements are armed and more armed since the 1980. The TPLF willingly left million of kalashnikovs and ammunition in oromiya. Their nemesis is not the oromos its the Amharas.
3- The Amharas are bent of toppling on Abey Ahmed and have tried 1 in failed coup to remove him. They are arming themselves. Abey Ahmed armed every man in Ethiopia to its teeth.
In concusion. The international community has no will to engage in African wars any more. You heard Macrons revealing words today. While the whites want the whole world to be against Russia and engage in Ukraine Macrone refused to sanction the tutsi led Rwandan government. Munaafiqnamada cadaanka waa yaab. Saaxirka Afwerki is holding a few strings but even the eritreans are tired on him. He cant glew Ethiopia together forever and I have slight feeling that he does not want to see arrival of the amharas who sometimes have a bitter taste of letting of Eritrea. America can try dictate but Ethiopia is in a mess. Somalia and somalis have breating space for now. If Amxaaro return to power the old couch that Meles used to humilare rival somali factions with will come back. Our avid frequent flyer and the FGS of Soomaaliya needs use this time to get a grip on the Somali pshyche.
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Somali politics is all about emtions to ensure that those who are in power stay in power!. Arafat, I assure that Muuse and his cohorts will do what ever they can do to spread the message to defeat. Not that they like it, but it cements Muuses concept of unity. Sadly It seems, the more hatred the more legitamacy for him and less scrutiny and reckoning by the youth in Hargeysaa why are they being sent to deserts to fight other somalis. We are the sane voices who should talk about the worst famine that nomads in Somaliland are enduring? The economic problems, inflation? The monoply of the economy?.
Anyways, be it north or the south, its all about emotions!